Gun ownership itself is a slight mental illness

Huh. It's illegal to milk another persons cow here.

New weekend plans.

 

Yeah, that would fall under either the adultery or bigamy laws . . . or possibly sexual misconduct.

 

Oh come on, you cant do the whole logic over emotions thing and follow it up with a completely illogical point

Edit. Never mind.

I'm not even going to engage, you guys make these debates incredibly tedious. You know the murder rate by screwdriver isnt remotely comparable to the murder rate by gun, I know it, it's obvious you dont have a point here and are just trying to engage in a pointless and tedious argument so let's just not do that.

 

Also it's illegal to beat your wife on the courthouse steps here any day but Sunday. Sunday you can beat your wife on the courthouse steps.

 

This is dangerous. You wouldnt want to ruin your pants

 

Squirt guns are illegal in Enid, OK.

 

H

TO REPEAR – what crime statistics are you basing your views on?

I was trying to see if you were bullshitting about been so knowledgeable and your reply seems to strongly indicate you are.

I mean what evidence do you have that easy access to guns is good for tackling crime?

And this time no evasion you don’t want to get a reputation for been a bull shitter do you LOL

Oh and don’t bring up Lott that’s been discredited and you might want to read previous posts in this thread first before you reply.

But again – are you claiming many gun owners say they do? Are you saying that it hasn’t been presented as a reason for having a gun?

Tell me the bit you didn’t understand and I’ll try and simplify it for you.

 

Mel

I agree but simply on a rational basis with trying to cut out the emotional element ease of access to guns makes no sense.

I understand what you are saying about people’s grief (so often dismissed with the clichéd platitude ‘thoughts and prays’ of gun lobbyists meaning they don’t want action) but the strongest emotional responses actually come from the pro-gun lobbyists who so often reek of fear.

 

The Bureau of Justice Statistics. And that's no bull shit. Of course, you'd know that if you hadn't been too lazy to look it up. So again, not knowing the statistics of home burglaries in the U.S. before condemning peoples' right to own a gun for home security is nothing for you to laugh at.

 

I agree, that's one reason why it's so infuriating that the pro gun group throws out the "facts not feelings" cliche so often. Their arguments are often both illogical (like the screwdriver thing) and emotional (like how it was assumed I want to ban all guns despite never having advocated for a ban of all guns. But he fears that's what will happen so that's where his mind went)

 

H

So you are admitting you are a bull shitter?

I mean this is just MORE EVASION – so I repeat - what crime statistics are you basing your views on?

I was trying to see if you knew anything about US crime statistics and so far the answer seems to be a resounding NO

I think you haven’t a clue what you are going on about

SO AGAIN - what evidence do you have that easy access to guns is good for tackling crime?

Stop evading and answer the fucking questions please

 

Sure Balbus. I don't mean to fuck with you like this, but I'm just showing that even though you have no idea about the statistics regarding home burglaries in the U.S., that didn't stop you from condemning peoples' right to own a gun for home security.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt

Now you can't pretend it doesn't exist.

 

Now you're back to pretending that you are ignorant of the difference between style and function. The AR-15 is not an assault weapon. It's an assault STYLE weapon. It's a fucking semiautomatic rifle!

 

H

So you still don’t know what you are going on about?

This is just MORE EVASION – and I repeat - what crime statistics are you basing your views on?

Explain why this supposedly backs up your ideas.

TO REPEAT - what evidence do you have that easy access to guns is good for tackling crime?

And did you do as I asked and read the other posts in this thread?

 

Oh, well let's see here. You said that the reason why people want a gun for ‘defence’ is fear and paranoia and that comes across in what anti-gun control lobbyist say just go read any thread involving guns and key words come up over and over ‘rape’, ‘murder’ ‘home invasion’, the world isn’t safe, people do want to do you harm, I need to protect my child, my wife my family.

How the fuck can you not know what home burglary statistics has to do with your opinion that people don't need guns for home security?

 

MeAgain

Oh stop spoiling my fun LOL

I honestly doubt H knew anything about the figures until he just google them and i bet he didn't read them - so stop helping him out with the crib notes

He might have saved himself some time if he had read my earlier post

But we will see

 

*A household member was present in roughly 1 million burglaries and became victims of violent crimes in 266,560 burglaries. Gee, how could a gun have helped them? How oh how oh how?