Gun ownership itself is a slight mental illness

Discussion in 'Politics' started by unfocusedanakin, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Henderson

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    What about all the factual home burglaries every year? Would you rather the victims of violence during those burglaries just man up and take their lumps?
     
  2. Driftrue

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    This is not a weighted Q, I have no idea, but how many burglaries are prevented by the homeowner having a gun?
     
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  3. Okiefreak

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    Can't you imagine the pandemonium that would ensue if somebody showed up at WalMart brandishing a pound of bacon, a pack of cigarettes, or a strobe light?
     
  4. Okiefreak

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    That's why I think a total ban on guns is undesirable (and unconstitutional): nothing crazy about firearms for that purpose. But it makes sense (and is within the Second Amendment) to regulate guns, including bans on rapid fire ones that can hold a high number of rounds of ammunition. We should revisit the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, in effect from 1994-2004, which banned certain "semiautomatic weapons and "large capacity ammunition magazines. A recent study found that the ban was associated with a reduction in homicides from mass-shootings during the decade when it was in effect. Changes in US mass shooting deaths associated with the 1994-2004 federal assault weapons ban: Analysis of open-source data. - PubMed - NCBI Yes, a determined homicidal maniac could kill people with a knife or an axe, but probably not on as large a scale.
     
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  5. Henderson

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    And by rapid fire I'll assume you mean semiautomatic weapons. Your real beef is with the magazine size, and not the semiautomatic function. I am all for a ban on large capacity magazines.
     
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  6. Aerianne

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    Balbus attempts to discredit me based on my gender.

    I'm going to report this to Administration but I wanted a chance to call everyone's attention to it, here.

     
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  7. MeAgain

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    Anymore posts about members will be deleted for being off topic.
    Please stick to the subject.
    If you have a gripe about a particular mod or member discuss it in private through private conversations or private group conversations...not in public.

    And anyone is free to report anyone else, mod or otherwise, to admin or any mod.
     
  8. Aerianne

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    So we are expected to sit hear ( edit - here) and have him talk shit about us, but there's no putting the shoe on the other foot?

    Talk about a bunch of good ol' boys, lol


    If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the pollution.
     
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  9. Henderson

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    What would the answer to that have to do with someone's right to own a gun for home protection?
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Aerianne, I'll letting this stand as I don't want to appear to picking on your post exclusively.
    You should know we have a long standing policy of not discussing these types of things in public, especially as it doesn't relate to the topic at hand.

    If you or anyone else has a problem with Balbus, me, or anyone else the proper procedure is to take it up with another mod, Skip, ZenKarma....or we have a group function in the private conversation area.
    There is nothing to stop you and anyone else who desires from forming a large private conversation about this or any other matter.

    I would hope I would do the same for you if someone were to start publicly accusing you of trolling.

    If you are upset with Balbus, or me...report him, me, or us...take it to Skip or Chris, I have no problem with that.
    I'm only asking everyone to stay on topic.
     
  11. Aerianne

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    Furthermore, what about the original topic?; which was an immediate accusation of paranoia and a lack of mental health on the part of gun owners?

    I don't understand how all these inflammatory statements can fly around here and be expected to be met with shut mouths.
     
  12. Aerianne

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    I did.
     
  13. MeAgain

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    Many people make the argument that a gun is necessary for home protection.
    So asking if that is a valid argument based on statics would seem to me to be logical.

    I have no problem with a gun being used for home protection. I lived in a very rural area where I kept a gun for that purpose. The police would have taken over an hour to reach my house, and I had a neighbor who used a gun for that reason, I also had another neighbor murdered. So I have no problem with that.
    The problem arises when people want to use any type of gun and allow anyone to own one.
     
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  14. Aerianne

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    See, we can start to find common ground when we speak freely and from our hearts.
     
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  15. MeAgain

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    When I was growing up in the 50's many people had guns. They used them mainly for small game hunting, target shooting, and some deer hunting.

    But most guns were shotguns or .22s, not AK 47s and the like.
    My father is a WWII vet and he can't understand why the government allows these assault style weapons to be available to the public.
     
  16. Aerianne

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    John Q. Public probably shouldn't have access; but, you cannot treat avid collectors in the same manner. I'm sure there are lots of people here who grew up with guns as part of their family memories. I know that I did. I remember my dad's delight, and my brothers' astonishment, at my incredible marksmanship with the Four Ten or even the Sawed Off, which I was partial to at the age of ten..

    Some people feel toward guns the same way that others feel toward cars, aircraft, jewelry. It's a fascination with the craftsmanship...Plus, target practice is a rush!
     
  17. Aerianne

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    I feel you on this, but you can't lump all gun owners together because you might see that your friend had issues.

    My nephew murdered his girlfriend of several years.

    I may be dead before he gets out. He got 34 years so I may never see him again.

    He didn't use a gun, though. He used his bare hands.
     
  18. MeAgain

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    Collectors have always been able to purchase many types of guns...even fully automatic, they're just highly regulated.
     
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  19. Driftrue

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    i was just curious.
     
  20. Henderson

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    I'll say this. I think that making a statement like "gun ownership is a mental illness" is itself a mental illness.
     
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  21. Henderson

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    Because style does not say anything about how a gun functions. If I understand you correctly, you want all semiautomatic guns to be banned because you don't like the style. But your real problem is with the size of the magazines. And as I have said, I have no problem with limiting the size of magazines.
     

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