GTA5 Outsells Movies

Discussion in 'Computers and The Internet' started by wooleeheron, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    This violent videogame has made more money than any movie ever

    I've never played the game myself and, not being a console player, I don't see the attraction, but it appears to have outsold every movie ever made. This is why Hollywood is rushing to adopt high resolution and VR standards, and working up to integrating more of its movies right into the gaming platform. With the PS5 rumored to crank out 20 teraflops of performance, it means cheap consoles are about to make the desktop computer all but obsolete because, there is no way you can call the thing just a gaming console, when it can do almost anything most people would want from surfing the web to creating your own video games, UHD movies, or doing spreadsheets for work.

    George Lukas was the first to become famous for being a techno wiz in Hollywood, and that trend is continuing as Hollywood merges with other types of technology now possible. At the rate the technology is advancing, in the next decade almost anyone at home can film anyone and anything they want and use it to easily create their own photo-realistic video games or whatever without requiring any expert knowledge. That might sound far fetched, but by that time it should cheap and easy enough to buy the equivalent of a Star Trek holodeck computer in something the size of a suitcase, that just does whatever you ask it to do.
     
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  2. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear voice of sexy

    well i would hope so. the average movie gives you what, an hour and a half of entertainment? GTA5 is probably 40 hours just to get through the main storyline, double that if you do all the side missions. way better value.
     
  3. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    The online never ends in the game. Classic MMO addictive style game play. I prefer single players games that have a goal I can acomplish.
     
  4. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear voice of sexy

    same. i actually forgot about the online aspect to GTA5. yet another reason that any given movie shouldn't be able to compete. although "a goal i can accomplish" can be taken a couple ways; i generally prefer games like gta or the elder scrolls where you can basically set your own goals and do what you want rather than follow the given path toward the one set goal the game designers give you.

    i never got into online play. when i was a freshman in college we used to do big halo wars online, but it was still just a few rooms in my dorm battling each other rather than teabagging a bunch of strangers online. and when i was in grad school a friend briefly got me into the lord of the rings online MMORPG. that was a lot of fun for a little while, but it got old pretty quick too, and really other than my one friend i didn't really get into playing with other people; i mostly just played that as a single player game too.
     
  5. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Open world games are the future of AAA titles, with even HL3 supposedly being open world, Valve only waiting for the technology for full body motion capture to become more affordable. The ability to use motion capture and ray tracing means GTA can not only look dramatically better, but incorporate AI most gamers are not familiar with. Ray tracing allows the NPCs to act as if they see each other and recognize what they are doing and to even look the player in the eye using eye-tracking. The game takes on an entirely new dimension for platforms like VR and what comes next is anybody's guess, but Hollywood has definitely taken notice and is quickly adopting the technology and planning more video games that include famous actors and actually have writers.
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    GTA is boring. It's the same shit every game. Go and beat this person up, steal a car, kill frenzy, pick this person up x6 games spanning what, 20 years? Newsflash, they already did it, 20 years ago.
     
  7. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Its an arcade style game, like the original Doom, and you don't play them for intellectual gratification, but for mental masturbation. However, as the graphics and AI and physics all become more complex, and machines more powerful, arcade games tend to become less popular. Sadly, we've not really had a leap in the technology for the last fifteen years, but that is currently changing. The industry has spent all this time developing rasterization and is ready to launch into space from a firm foundation. Believe it or not, the video game industry is considered vital to the national defense, for developing technology.
     
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  8. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear voice of sexy

    there was some truth to that for a while. GTA3, vice city, and the prequels for both those cities were kind of like what you just said. san andreas added a lot of random shit to the formula, then GTA4 took a lot of it away in exchange for better story and gameplay, then GTA5 brought back all kinds of random shit, improved on the gameplay, and actually made it so that almost every mission was kind of unique.

    besides, it's hard to take this complaint seriously from someone who plays nascar games, where the entire game series for the last 25 years has been "steer straight, curve left, steer straight, curve left, etc. i did play one nascar game back in the 90s where you could turn around and take on the rest of the cars head on, but i think they removed that option from the game since then.
     
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  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    I play sims though, which is different. A sim isn't "fun" and our races are broadcast live on YouTube. We have paid sponsorships, we raise money for charity causes. Our sim league and community isn't like your online leagues. We are real people, paying members. The team I am on has real life engineers and car engineers from Deutsch Motorsports teams. We are sponsored by real companies that expect results live on youtube. It's not a game. It's the closest thing any of us are going to get to in terms of racing IRL, it is that authentic and detailed.

    GTA5 had its different moments, but it's generally the same game though from the 1st game. I just don't see how people can delve themselves into it so immerse like it's a real life thing or something, it's literally so arcade like there's almost no fun in it, for me. I'm a realism person. I like it when I shoot someone in the chest they stay down like they would. Not use a whole clip and then some on some wankster who owes someone else 500$ :p

    Meanwhile I take Skyrim seriously too, but I also get very bored of that for the same reasons. Once you explore the new landscapes and stuff, I find it's still a carbon copy from a previous game and version.
     
  10. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Real people are over-rated.
    That's why VR porn is the future.
     
  11. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear voice of sexy

    yeah, i'm kind of the opposite. i get enough of real life in real life; i like to play a video game where i can shoot someone 100 times if they piss me off.

    and no, skyrim is far from a carbon copy. it's the opposite of the GTA progression, instead of improving on every aspect they just improved in graphics, and took away all other options in hopes that more stupid people would enjoy it. the older elder scrolls games had so many options, especially for their time. if they had kept going that direction it would have been practically like real life except in a fantasy world. but instead they dumbed it down so that it looks roughly the same but you can't really do that much anymore.
     
  12. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    I meant skyrim is like Oblivion in the end. As GTA 5 is GTA 1 for me.

    Some people in sim racing, that's their job. Sponsors can pay 50k 100k or more to folks who can prove with results so with us you know when we get upset it's worth it, not because a mage got beat or you lost a gun fight, some people literally lose their income, their sponsors etc. Soon our league will have prize money too as we grow.

    Don't get me wrong GTA and all can be fun, but for me that fun is gone after 6-8hrs. The most fun I have in those games is not doing missions but just driving around or walking around exploring because the missions are so cliche and the same every game i would just prefer to just pretend I'm the character lol.

    Same is for sports game though I mean we all pay 100 for a game with an updated roster and league schedule lol and I got no argument there though this year I'm seriously considering not buying madden as I'm in year 2022 now and it's been fun. There'll have to be something awesome about it for me to buy. I'll probably get it anyway. :p

    I have no personal sponsors in the sim that pay proper money to me. Just friends businesses. Our team is funded by real companies but I don't see anything out of it. I'm working on a possible sponsorship opportunity. I want them to pay for a new computer and internet. :)

    I'm actually not a bad horse on oval racing. :p
     
  13. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    Outbid curiosity should research how much iRacing generates because we have to pay monthly or yearly subscriptions and we need to purchase new car mods and tracks. A track may cost 15US and a mod may cost 8US. Users pay probably 15US a month subscription. I paid 200US for 2 years. Plus 32 paid tracks averaging that 15US plus maybe 7 mods.

    And then it's not just iRacing. Along with iRacing we also all have a trading paints account and Virtual Sim Racing account monthly subscription in which it compares all your vehicle data and how you drove in comparison to other people. It's the same technology pit teams use on their days modules. :p

    Its full on I tell ya, you don't come sim racing and put in all that money for fun. You do it because you're a competitive person.
     
  14. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Racing, flying, and mechanical robots you pilot are among the most easily adapted to VR and ray tracing. The open source community in particular has a leg up on the technology with the new Vulcan API and the newest Linux 3D fonts. The open source community could lag behind the competitive industry by less distance over time.
     
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  15. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

  16. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Open source has been held back by the power of the machines on the market, with the next generation PC architecture stressing AI that practically eliminates bugs and bandwidth issues. You could say, for the first time in a long time, the entire industry is in the process of redesigning the basic PC. Enthusiasts have long awaited this day because, among other things, it means people can afford to play serious Three Card Monty with the ram, cpu, and gpu and create endless content on a budget. Using something like Threadripper, you can play games, while doing four or more other things in the background and having practically infinite windows open.
     
  17. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    Oh ok, fairy nuff!
     
  18. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    I'm getting the next Threadripper, due out this summer, along with Nvidia's new Ampere capable of real time ray tracing. Way more expensive than anything I would ever consider buying just for playing games, so I'll be sure to the enjoy playing on it.
     
  19. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    I should probably just bite the bullet ay and admit I got NFI what you're talking about sorry lol. :p but if it'll make my sim racing better, I'll try and learn. ;)
     
  20. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Ideally what you want for racing, is a 4k monitor or TV and a computer that costs maybe $2,000.oo. VR is so new though, you could use a next generation Xbox or PS5 costing anywhere from $500-800.oo. So, I'd wait a few years and see what kind of monitor or TV you want that can handle HDR10+. VR headsets are still just getting off the ground and you'll have to research those as well.
     

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