Grrrr Bush !!!!

Actually he's been drunk on his own power for the past three years.

 

Yeah but almost all presidents have drank some while in the White House.

 

Well, true enough. Just about everyone except... let's see, Gerald Ford.

And I'm with mynameiskc, I don't really care about what goes on in the personal lives of the presidents as long as it doesn't affect job performance adversely.

 

i'd probably be less alarmed with the decision and actions of gw if he WAS on coke, then it would kinda make sense, of the "poor fucker, he's a drug addict, he's not thinking straight."


no, i think our president has some freaking uber-christian conservative revelations-style vision for his role in the white house, trying to bring about armageddon or some shit, thinking it's time to start marking people on their heads or hands. the man is creepy...

but by the same token, i'm not going to believe everything bush-haters say. i think everyone is out for their own agenda until they prove otherwise. one of the reasons i come here is because i'm surrounded on all sides by conservative republicans all nodding along with each other and gw. it's scary. they don't question each other or argue at all. it's totally one-sided. i wanted to hear the other side. dont' ever fall into the trap of just believing everything that SOUNDS good, or because you WANT to believe it. there's no sides here, not really. we'll all go to hell together.

 

Hehe, I just think "Poor fucker, he's a fundamentalist, he's not thinking straight..."

 

with the fires of armageddon glowing in his eyes...

 

I have to disagree about "its none of our business what the president has done in the past, and what he does outside of the Whitehouse". To me that is hella important! I mean this man is making decisions for every single one of us! He is running our country and changing the entire world. Looking back at someones history, and seeing if they are a person who deserves the honor of being our leader is mandatory. The president should represent a wise and venerable being that represents the best of the people in the nation. Unfortunately it is not like that. Instead it is very rich, white males.
Anyway, I dont think Bush is on coke now. However I think it is important that we do not brush off THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNDITED STATES past history, and life choices just because.


"And I'm with mynameiskc, I don't really care about what goes on in the personal lives of the presidents as long as it doesn't affect job performance adversely."

I think what the president does do in his "personal" life is going to have a big effect on his job performance no matter what. It would be nice to see Bush take up meditating world peace with the Dalai Lama on his free time . LOL

 

once the man's in office his past is a moot point. his every boyhood mistake will be dredged up for the titillation of the voters. once they've gotten through that trial, and they're in office, what he does from then on is what's important. someone may take a chance on hiring an ex-con for their office, knowing full well what their past entails, but once that is done, what they do while working for you is what matters.


so, why is it that one president's embarassing and annoying sexual escapades are not considered a matter for public scrutiny by so many in regards to his presidential performance, but a long past and really insubstantiated boyhood fuck-ups are?

like i said, there's more than enough factual items to pick at than something long dead. i have no problem with a christian president myself, being christian, but when he starts trying to mingle government and the church and dictating public policy with one religion instead of logic and plain facts, he's no longer a representative of the nation, and breaking the laws of the constitution to boot.

 

Also when it comes to Clinton and his sexual stuff, i dont agree with how he cheated on his wife. But this is his personal life people are getting into. This problem is between him and his wife, a president just like everybody else deserves a personal life. Some say, but he did this in the white house. Who gives a Fuck! The white house at that time was also his personal residence. I dont care where he did it, or how he did it, as far as im concerned it is none of my buisness or anybody elses buisness. Just because he made a bad decision in his sexual life. His sexual life has nothing to do with his job as a president. They are two seperate things.

 

Well, I suppose that's the line of thinking that makes many people think it's so wonderful that he's incorporating faith with politics. And as I said, I only mean we should nitpick away at presidents' personal lives if it affects the job performance *adversely*. Clinton's sex scandal, while immoral, didn't make him a better or worse president, job-wise.

 

Bush is wonnnnderful

 

your kidding, right moonjava?



anyways, i cant believe im sticking up for bush, but i dont see why his coke using past is going to effect his presidency. people make mistakes, and i dont see why they have to be rubbed in their faces for the rest of their lives

 

Yeah, those people in Iraq don't deserve freedom. You take your freedoms for granted. Go on and take a trip over there. Better yet, take a trip to another country where you wont be afraid to loose your life. Go see how oppressed people live under a tyrant. Hell, why don't you stand in line for that ride...what is it called....oh yeah...the "I'm gonna be killed by my tyranical leader who likes to test weapons on his people" ride. Please, get a clue before you start going off on something.

I know our government isn't perfect. I know that there is not one man or woman on this world that is perfect. However, what I do know is that I support helping others. I know for damn sure that if I were in trouble, getting beat up on the side of the road that I would be praying for someone to come help me. Why is it so wrong for us to be helping the Iraqi people? Why is it so wrong for us to get rid of terrorists? I know, lets release everyone in prison, even though they did wrong things, it's a free country, so we should let them go. Please, this kind of thinking is moronic. If you aren't willign to stand up for what is right and fight for it, then you are a coward. Bush may have some evil plan going in his head, or perhaps he doesnt and some other government officials have different plans. Here is what I know; Bush didn't act alone on this fight, Kerry votted in favor of the war, Human lives are being saved(and yes there are casualties, that will happen reguardless...hell, lots of casualties took place in cars before people realized a seatbelt was a good idea), We are ridding the world of a few terrorists one at a time. Unless someone else steps into the ring that I see is better prepared and I feel he will be able to do a better job, I will be voting for Bush to be president again.

 

i believe in making the best of a bad situation. no, we didn't go there to free the iraqi's. but since we're already there, we may as well. there were some completely hamfisted lies as well as a complete screw-up in terms of our diplomacy with the rest of the world in regards to our presence and purpose there. let's not forget the incredible amount of money being spent there, on the heels of the tax cuts. poor financing, that. no, i don't hate bush, but i don't think he's all that great, and i think his administration has handled this very badly.

 

nope, I like Bush. I support him 100% so far.

 

I'm gonna go on a limb and say that everything you know about bush and the war so far came from FOX or CNN. I think this because all the reasons you've given for supporting him is almost word for word the same filtered bullshit they air.

 

Shit I just saw that you're 18 and from texas... Who the fuck cares what you think. Can someone tell me why they're allowed to vote.

 

Actually I get my information from a number of different places. I work with publications, I see a lot. And I'm entitled to my opinion so there's no need to attack me personally.

 

Have no fear moon, just by reading Juggalo4ever's signature line I can tell he/she is immature. Apparently, Juggalo4ever think's that Bush did all this on his own. Juggalo4ever will probably vote for Kerry, that is if Juggalo4ever believes in voting. Wonder if Juggalo4ever realizes Kerry voted in favor of the war. Wonder if Juggalo4ever realizes that in a very recent interview Kerry could not answer a simple question of "Do you regret voting for the war?".

You can call me right wing, I can call you left wing. Simple fact is, if you are on the street and get attacked, YOU'RE GONNA BE SCREAMING FOR HELP! I know, it's easy for you to debate something when hundreds of thousands of men and women have already fought and died for your freedom. Who cares about the rest of the worlds freedom right?

Hell, I just realized I wasted a few braincells on a moron that thinks people from Texas or people that are 18 can't think. Your last sentence bothers me. Were you abused as a child? Were you not loved enough?

Bush - 1
You - 0
Round 2...ding! Yeah, compose yourself, think hard, it's your turn to reply.

 

J, don't give it much thought. This chic is just here to stir up shit by very obviously adding a useless post, and that real american is probably some 50 year old republican "got my leg shot off in the war" type. That, or he's a 15 year old brat with nothing better to do. I'd suggest you ignore them