Greta Thunberg

(i) The sign of those quick to blame, but reluctant to enter the game (?)
(ii) I'd still have faith in the younger generation - even it is has to be Grand (rather than direct), children

Oh I don't know - have you not seen Dr. Strangelove, 2001, Alien and the Terminator? = oh err

 

But you had to look up where Eritrea was though didnt you. Its barely a country its so tiny. And three guesses what stupid shit they were fighting about in the first place

Two countries that will be back fighting over stuff in a couple years

I dont think its such a prestigous award. The prize isnt awarded by any UN organization as many seem to think. Its awarded by 5 people picked by Norways Parliament, usually politicians and lawyers.

Alfred Nobel himself of course the guy that invented dynamite

You know who won the peace prize in 2012? The European Union. For 60 years of not trying to kill each other. How ridiculous is that basically giving the award to a continent


Otherwise usually follows the same storyline, two countries have been fighting for a long time, usually over material stuff like resources, or more stupidly religion, they get sick of fighting, declare peace for a while...then years later one of the leaders gets a pat on the back with the Nobel peace prize

Thunberg might have not done all that much so far. But there is still something not quite right with the world if we want to give more attention to two little countrys dispute more so than world issues that affect everyone

 

Why are you like this

 

Because they come from a land down-under - those colonists have different views and values?

 

(i) No, Because one is English, one is educated in Geography, and in History the repetition of events is often the way
(ii) Whilst it may not be valued by you as prestigious, the competition for inclusion; never mind victory in achievement shows howit's much more regarded by many others - Worldwide
(iii) (As well as holding hundreds of other patents)
(iv) Agreed = Silly selection
(v) An advocate and deliver of the cessation of hostilities is, one believes worthy of inclusion onto the list - judgement on merit is always subjective to opinion
(vi) Agreed - which is why she should receive much more support, encouragement and respect
IMO​

 

Lao Tzu said, "Habits are the end of all honesty and compassion, the beginning of total confusion!" The people now running our government, are the same generation that dropped out, tuned in, and turned on. There can be no doubt they are all fully aware that something is missing from this picture, but have no clue what the hell it is or how to address the situation.

I've seen all those movies and many more, but those are existentialist nightmares that spring from the western tradition of relying on dualistic logic to solve all our problems, and have little to say about the reality. My words tell me what to write, not the other way around, because the reality is they have a will and a life of their own, and God is playing peek-a-boo. That is the next scientific revolution coming, which can treat anything as alive and self-organizing, with a will and a life of its own, because we are legion, we are the collective unconscious, and AI is about to awaken mother nature, or the ego of the collective unconscious. Her only jobs is to impose balance, whenever harmony is lost, and she will not allow humanity to die off, but the price could easily be two billion people or more dying, because karma's a bitch and don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.

Basically, civilization took a detour around two thousand years ago, when Plato and Aristotle establishe formal logic and organized the modern sciences for the first time. We needed to developed all the technology we have, in order to take the next step, and empower the meek to inherit the earth. Puberty sucks.

 

(i) I beg to differ, that generation have had their day it is moreover their (more IT savvy) children, who lead the way
(ii) I was referring to the control that we give to AI
(iii) Logic and organisation do have a place in society - however must be balanced with imaginative creativity and freedom of choice
- As for the meek inheriting the Earth - well they say cockroaches are the most resilient of creatures and nobody said that meekness was inclusive to humanity

 

The internet has only been around since the mid-1990s, and the IT generation is less than 25 years old or so. Even if you assume the first home computers are when the IT generation was born, they are only around 35 years old. Less than 30% of Americans under 35 identify themselves as republican, and there is no way they voted Donald Duck into office. Senior citizens now have the vast majority of the wealth in America today, while the republican party continues to age, with their voters being much closer to 55 and older, than 35 years old.

Pattern matching ruling the universe does not mean logic is wrong or worthless, merely that it doesn't rule the universe. Think of a puzzle you assemble where, as you assemble more pieces, they give you clues as to how to assemble more parts of the puzzle. What quantum mechanics demonstrates clearly, is that logic and causality are only shortcuts to getting answers, that can become totally worthless and counterproductive at least half the time. You can argue all you want that it can't be so, but your computer would not work if the engineers did not take into account that the "holes" the electrons occupy, move around on their own without the electrons. Modern science has attempted to convince everyone that everything must make logical sense according to Aristotle, and insisted that there must be an explanation for how gravity works, but the truth is all our theories, logic, mathematics, physics, etc. have steadily become more vague, self-contradictory, tautological, and nonsensical ever since Newton introduced his universal theory of motion, which isn't actually universal.

Our technology, awareness, and emotions all have a will and a life of their own, and the idea that only humans have a will and awareness of their own is just more 2,000 year old crap promoted by the fact it happens to make money, but not for much longer. We are approaching the turning point, the singularity, where the truth become undeniable and the ego of the collective unconscious, mother nature, must impose limits on the entire species.

 

Geez Wooleeheron - You don't make it easy!

 

(i) The advances in IT has been swift and it is the youth that has finds it easier to learn things - they have less to forget.-Which is why I said "I beg to differ"
(ii) Baffling one with science doesn't help with communication - for as I see it, when complex mathematical and double -talking are used to explain/justify argument, any, including me turn off. - Not 'Keeping it succinctly simple', indicates a design to hide something.
(iii) Your analogy of AI is somewhat frightening, although in short justifies my observation.

 

Telling it like it is, is never baffling one with science. We now have empirical quantifiable evidence that growing up in an extended family or volunteering the use of your own two hands in service to your community, means you are much more likely to live up to your own moral standards and thrive better in the long run. That means all those fucking religions and philosophies that espouse this, that, and the other thing, are garbage unless they first stress paying it forward with your own two hands, above all else. You can donate to the poor in your old age and it will help to extend your life, but there can be no doubt what is all about. Instant karma's gonna getcha baby, not because I said so, but because its the law of nature.

Trust me, meeting mother nature is anything but a way to calm your nerves, but there is no way of avoiding what is to come. Instead of terminator robots, mother nature will ensure you either die younger and reproduce less often, or start paying it forward.

 

Firstly, Resorting to bad language in a civilised conversational debate indicates in itself a truth of one's character.
That being said, let's look at what you are trying to express
Reluctance to Keep it succinctly simple, is not a sign of intelligence but ignorance (in its dictionary descriptive)
Empirical quantifiable evidence is not just direct observation it is also experimentation, and therefore unnatural
Whilst I agree that religious doctrine is untrustworthy; as it follows a trend that can meander with the understanding of that particular lead, Philosophies are subject to an individuals choice of lifestyle.
The thread is about GRETA THUNBERG so do I take it by the comments in your last paragraph that whilst you back her in principle, you are content in allowing Mother Nature to take the necessary action to redress balance - as Karma has a reputation of just, due and appropriate payback?

 

The only reason cuss words are considered impolite, is because their contextual vagueness exposes corruption better than other words. Ancient chinese peasants, for example, could have their head cut off on the spot for cracking a joke, so they adopted the Tao Te Ching which expresses such incredibly tongue-in-cheek jokes, that the 81 poems of the text can be extrapolated into 4,430 which the Chinese call "The Book that can Never be Written". Think about it for a second, why would anyone care about being told they are spouting bullshit, unless there was money involved? You can bet your sweet ass the Queen never cusses.

Experimentation can take many forms, and there is nothing "inhumane" or "unethical" about merely observing how people behave and the consequences of their behavior in controlled conditions. There is nothing unethical about my flat out telling trolls online that I'm designing bots they will love to argue with, and asking them to spout more bullshit. As for mother nature, Greta Thunberg's whole reason for being in the news is to preserve nature! You can argue all you want that nature obeys some civilized white man's ideas of logic and physics, and she will merely laugh at you. The Native Americans knew right away the white man could not keep this up forever without mother nature laying down the law. They were primitive people, not totally insane or stupid.

 

I think it's the steady diet of troll food...

 

That's a lot of words - what is the answer to my question?

 

Usually people put a question mark at the end of a question, so it is right here.

 

What are you on about? there is a question mark at the end of my request!.
I guess Diversion and distraction are your watchwords

 

Post it again if it has a question mark.

 

I often have to repeat myself.