Greatways to get an underage girl to have sex with you!

Thank you, my dear...

 

I never lost my ass, so it can't be handed to me. I'm not arguing with you because you won't change my mind and I won't change your minds. I was putting my opinion in like people do on forums.

You boys can go back to patting yourselves on the back...and checking out 14 year old girls.

 

That dude is nuts, man! Seriously!

 

If the girl's at least 13 and willing to, then OK but if forced to it's not cool. And what makes you think that some guys wouldn't go after 4 year old girls as opposed to 14 year old girls if that sort of thing was legal?

 

it's not you either boy

read your Nabokov recently..?

 

Okeefe, please.

For fuck's sake, no one is trying to hump 14 year olds in here. We are arguing a point that is controversial, yes and taboo, yes...but all in all fair game to debate.

You seem to want to censor the debate by name-calling and emotional reactionary posting. How about coming up with what they call an "argument"?

 

Okeefe,

Of course it is not me who decides when a person matures mentally. It is up to the very person in the process of growing up. My point, which you have successfully missed even though it seems pretty clear, is that young people NEED more accurate information regarding love/sex/life, so as to be able to make the right decisions that work for THEM. Many young people today seem to be "clueless" not because they have chosen to be, but because the stance held by society has a way of keeping them from gaining the otherwise crucial information regarding love/sex/life/what-have-you.

By the way, my name is not Humbert.

 

This is fear-based thinking, something we've all learned to do exceptionally well, and it's just the kind of conciousness that has created our culture, society and our legal system, which is the same system that created active pedophiles.

I suggest we begin practicing love-based thinking. Instead of creating laws that must also create perversion, fear and craving, let's focus on nurturing parents and children when the children are growing. Let's focus on nurturing loving, supportive relationships. *Each child has the potential to grow up to be a pedophile.* Let's give them all the love and resources that they need so that they can later be adults who are compassionate and understanding of the consequences of their actions.

Walk your talk. You just told him he got an ass-handing... Now I'm aware of your agressive tendencies (this IS the L&S forum ) --But seriously, you have a sound argument. Don't bring it down.

 

I'm glad you guys cleared up the reason for this post -- I was really worried that some of you were just in it for the pussies.

I think that kids should be allowed to mature, mentally and emotionally, at their own rate -- it makes no sense to either push or restrain them. So if two people are honestly willing to make something work, and capable of it, they ought to go for it. However, if they aren't ready, at any age, nobody should say that just because it is legal for them to be, they need to be.

I guess that summarizes both sides of the argument (except for the irrational side, which we can all safely disregard).

 

I don't think that an opinion which focuses on reality, nature and education rather than fear, guilt and abstinence classifies one as a Humbert.

In our country, there are people pushing a conservative religious agenda that would deny minors all sexual information and sexual education. They're the people behind abstinence-only education, the child-pornography laws that get people arrested for taking pictures of their babies in the bathtub, or laws that make abortion risky and traumatic for young women. These so-called protections are more harmful to minors than sex itself.

But most people don't have an agenda. But let's be realistic. EDUCATION rather than forced abstinence.

Anyone who forces sex on any person of any age should be punished. But we have moved beyond appropriate responses to serious offenses to hyperbolic responses to offenses with unproven harms, such as the assumed harm to a child of involuntarily glimpsing a penis, or reading sexy language online.

There's almost no research that asks teens what they do, what they feel, or what they think. We must help teens when they're hurt sexually, of course. But it does them no good to be TOLD they've been terribly victimized when they may have undergone a merely unpleasant experience or even a pleasant one. This is psychologically damaging as much as real abuse. Well, hell... it IS real abuse.

The paranoia of today's American society regarding the sexuality of teens is astonishingly backward for the 21st century.

 

I would have to agree with that statement. I posted earlier in this thread...Got ignored, no surprise there...

Where I grew up there was a puerto rican neighborhood/section of town nearby. Some of those girls were fully developed by age eleven/twelve...

If America wants to turn out it's teens, & pre-teens we would need to start treating them like adults because by having sex with them you are doing just that.

<edit:> I started having sex at age fourteen. I was not mentally prepared for it yet. Nor was my body able to feel the same kind of pleasure from the act.
From my own personal experience, I believe maybe not all, but at least a significant amount of sexually active female teens are looking for approval of some kind, not orgasms.

Note: If you read the above edit carefully I shouldn't have to argue with any sexually active female teens claiming they ARE in it for orgasms.

 

Hey, not to get off the subject, but DAMN you're hot.

Anyhow... I could agree with your statement. I do believe education is the key, though.

 

Fuckin' Lib! Oy! *laughs*

 

Thank you, Libertine! :sunglasse

 

What's a Humbert??

 

Humbert is a derogatory name for someone who is said to be attracted to underage girls -"nymphets".

It comes from the main character in Nabokov's book "Lolita" who is an older man (I believe in his 40's), a professor, who becomes seduced by a young girl into having an affair with her. He even marries her mother just to be in the house with her. After her mother dies by an accident (ironically caused by the shock of finding out indirectly about Humbert and Lolita), the two lovers take a long cross-country trip for a few years. After which Lolita has been seducing another older man all along (a playwrite), who in turn, uses her and she leaves him to marry a young man around her own age.

Humbert devastated by Lolita's departure from him becomes insane with jealousy when he finally tracks her down with her current husband. She is older and pregnant, but Humbert still wants her to run away with him again. She says no and tells him about the playwrite. He leaves and goes to visit the playwrite and, in a fit of rage, kills him.

 

See, there ya go. I could NEVER be a Humbert. I know I can get really jealous at times and all, but I'd never go so far as to kill someone over it!

 

Hm'.. okay thanks for the detailed info.

 

Exactly. Rules without love coming first stifle people and cause more problems than they solve.

 

Very good point.