gotta love the bible...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by green faerie, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. green faerie

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    atoms are the smallest particles in the known universe.

    but to answer your question, they're made of matter.

    and no, i have no idea what matter is made up of.
     
  2. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    No that's wrong green faerie. They are techincially considered to be composed of leptons, tau leptons, quarks, etc. There are quite a few of them that I dont remember. But even then, what are they made up of? They are not made up of matter, matter is what is made up of atoms and subatomic particles, you have that part bakwards. They are made up of energy, energy is the result of the generation caused by vibration and has at its essence light, and all of this results from a concept that devides people as it either came from God, or it came from something else that so far has no basis in reality. But if it came from God, it came from Thought, the Thought willed existance to percipitate out of Love, and we blew out from there. Which, as you may have noticed, does not mean that space is infinite, nor that it will continue to expand for eternity. It may very well reach a point where it can no longer sustain itself, given an abundance of hidden matter which we are as of yet unable to find, and go back in on itself and start all over again, which if that were the case, would mean not only have the Hindus been correct about what we now think is the 'string theory' for thousands of years, but they also knew how, when, and from who the universe was born, as well as how, when, and in to whom the universe will be reborn. But for now we just wait and see -
     
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    i know nothing of leptons and quarks, but atoms are most definately made up of protons, neutrons and electrons.

    and yes, technically they are made of matter because matter is defined as anything that takes up space, no matter how small.

    energy is something i'm no expert on, but i can tell you for certain that no matter what causes said energy, the vibrations related to it are not the only differentiating factors between water and wine.
     
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    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    No, technically, at the smallest level, they are not made up of matter, they are made up of energy. Im failing to see how you are not understanding the difference here?
    And your statement about the differentiating factor between water and wine, sure, that is not the ONLY difference when you look at it from the surface plane. But when you get down to the actual composition of the substance, yes, the difference is rate of vibration. Everything is composed of atoms, like you already understand. But at the core of the atomic structure, there is energy, which is generated by and corresponds to its vibrational frequency. Therefor, all existance is a cosmic symphony of vibration, and therefor the defferntiating factor between ANY material substance is its rate of vibration.
     
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    okay, i really don't know a enough about science and chemistry beyond basic concepts to argue my point further. you could be right, you could be wrong. i have no idea. i personally disagree, but i don't have enough knowledge to support my opinion.

    i'm sorry that you don't see how i don't believe that energy is a tangible substance. when i type, i'm using energy. i dont think tiny particles are flying off my fingers, but i could be wrong.

    anyhow, thank you for this short debate that i have unfortunately found myself ill-equipped to continue. *bows towards you respectfully* :)
     
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    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    No I agree, energy is a force with which we use, and in ways that most people are unaware of actually. The kind of energy that is our life force comes from without and when we dont properly exercize its distribution throughout our body, it causes imbalance on physical, mental, and spiritual levels.
    But besides that, energy is not actually tangible, neither is anything else. Im sure you've heard before that when we touch something, we arent actually 'touching' it because of what subtle particles are in between our fingers and the material substance we are touching?
    You just have to look different, the knoweldge of science is totally imcomplete and even the theories about what comsposes us can not be proven, and are lacking in dimensions of reality to support the concept. But you can feel it, and perceive it, if you know how to look. That is why I said everything is a miracle, not just the miraculous surface level events that most people cant bring themselves to believe are possible.
     
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    Allonym cheesecake slut

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    i always thought string theory was pretty sweet. bunch of tiny strings constantly vibrating making up everything. i also like the, whatsit, superstring theory? with infinite parallel dimensions? that ones awesome.
     
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