God's Time

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by ginalee14, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. guerillabedlam

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    No, I meant speed decrease among subatomic particles, not the universe. I was unaware the higgs field affects some particles and not others, perhaps that suggests a lack of uniformity which makes more sense in giving rise to slower moving particles and matter. The extremely condensed and hot 'point' the Big Bang theory notes prior to inflation suggests that there is a linear effect from the quantum level to macro level.
     
  2. Monkey Boy

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    Well, even the physical body is 95% unchanging space.
     
  3. Dejavu~

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    Pictures please.

    Yes it is.
     
  4. Monkey Boy

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    Without space in your physical body particles couldn't move and there would be no energy.
     
  5. thedope

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    What do you think it means that particles slow down? We still have conservation of energy. As far as the shape of things goes I find linear to be conceptually stifling because things not only have forward momentum but rate of spin and egress toward all possible vectors so expansion doesn't look like a line but like spiraling, swirling, and eddying in which we have accretion which reheats and leads again to expansion. Obviously to me prior to big bang is no more a stable state than afterwords. That is the dense center must have become increasingly so over time.
     
  6. Anaximenes

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    Of course, as we all know, Biology has the laws for the materialistic time of God.
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    I don't view any meaning from particles slowing down.
     
  8. thedope

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    I don't know that. Energy changes states. There is no reason to assume biology is the only physical platform for communication of mind.
     
  9. thedope

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    So I'm not sure why you theorize expansion leads to particles slowing down.
     
  10. Dejavu~

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    By space you mean void. But there's no perfect vacuum. No nothing. Movement is infinite.

    Every reason, actually.
     
  11. thedope

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    Name one.
     
  12. Dejavu~

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    Pleasure.
     
  13. thedope

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    Pleasure doesn't care.
     
  14. Dejavu~

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    Should it? It's reason enough. Where is the mind not of life? Where is the life not its organism?
    Save your tales of disembodied consciousness for halloween! :-D
     
  15. thedope

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    I didn't say anything about disembodied consciousness. I didn't say anything about organisms not being alive. No doubt you find it pleasurable to think, sometimes.Reason is the capacity for consciously making sense of things, applying logic, establishing and verifying facts, and changing or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information. You may experience pleasure in reasoning but pleasure is not reason.
     
  16. Dejavu~

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    If you love reason, you come to find reason and love synonymous. Pleasure is reason enough to assume there's no mind without its biology. By physical platform, you weren't talking about books were you? lol Yes, I find it pleasurable to think, most of the time. :-D
     
  17. thedope

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    No I don't. Love is what I am reason is what I possess. Love is not the love of things, attraction and conversely repulsion, it is the impulse to be. It pleases you to believe is all and it would't please you to believe something else it seems as you argue against it. You have no reason on this subject but plenty of passion. By physical platform I mean any physical thing is in communication with other physical things. It is this communication between physical states that is the substance of mind being a physical process, gravity to intent, the communication in energetic exchange to mind.
     
  18. Dejavu~

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    If you haven't found love as reason, there's still time! ( Just not Gods lol ) ... Love's not the love of things!? Of course it is! What's not a thing? Are you not your own reason? Your own truth? To what end are you self-possessed? No need to answer! Abandon the question with a passion to approximate my own! :-D Instead, and hear me here on this, think well and hard on how it pleaseth you to find gravity and intent synonymous, to impute mind to physicality itself. Settle down on that bedrock and test it! Is the universe fundamentally flawed?! lol Why assert I have no reason on this subject? So, let's then extend communication, as you do, to any and all information. Still, we find that consciousness is of life, specifically. Your reason looks like this: Mind is physical physical is mind. Got to straighten up there! Stomach in! Chest out! Chin up! :-D Leap from your lie that the thought comes first, and love that it comes! lol
     
  19. thedope

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    Consciousness is of life and other things as well. I said love is not the love of things, (attraction and conversely repulsion.) There is need to answer if you want to understand my position. No I am not my own reason I always choose with a guide. And by the way the mind is naturally abstract.
     
  20. Monkey Boy

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    To Dejavu: Because there is no perfect vacuum space doesn't exist? I'm not following you.
     

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