God Sees Everything

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  1. thefutureawaits

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    The billions you speak of, are they the ones who go to war? have caused wars?and meddle in political circles? If so, how can they be correct?. If any many man or woman claims to be a Christian and then goes and kills someone, that person does not believe in God or his power.
     
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    The wisdom of knowing the future and recognize world events as they happen that fulfill prophecy.

    And when I was saying wise, I really meant the books that have Jesus teachings and life course.
     
  3. thedope

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    Thought you claimed there was no further communication after the book of revelations. Fact is we learn about through the book. It contains no entity, it is a map that shows where to look. God does not speak through the bible but with tongues of flame that light the mind. It is the voice of the holy spirit that communicates and teaches all things. Look you only teach from one very misunderstood book and there is no life in it. The only way god can communicate with you is through the body. Spirit has no physical form. 'you can't hear without the body and you can't hear voices that do not emanate from within the body. The body is a communication device. Why did christ take on the body, so that we might hear the good news. The breath comes into and goes out of the body. Gods word is the breath that animates life and when it is fanned awake it gushes out of the mouth like a fountain of living water from the abundance of the heart.

    Shall we explain what a book is? It is a repository of symbols which must be interpreted by the human mind to even be known as words. Therefor is is impossible that the bible interprets itself. Books do not talk, they do not fly around the room. It does not matter friend what you believe to god but only that you have life and have it abundantly. Your creations are yours, your efforts are yours. Your beliefs are yours. God has no designs on them. It is his progeny that he recognizes and his siblings that recognize each other. I have been in the presence of your fellows and listened and watched as they invariably deny the holy spirit in me for the reason that what i say is not what the bible says. Do you understand how vacant this perception is. Books don't talk. You hear not from god nor see the evidence of holy spirit when it is in front of you. If you deny the spirit resides within the man then you have missed the fact that we are still as god created us. What god has joined no man may put asunder. Every slander against god and the son will be forgiven but those who blaspheme against the holy spirit in men cannot see god for to blaspheme against the holy spirit is to deny it existence.

    The last fellow of your clan that i spent time with here had to flee for lack of easy access. To withdraw until a more opportune time when the spirit is not so palpably teaching. I say your clan because of and with all others you have no communion as a matter of hard hearted principle. God does not deny his child because you think to lord over him. His voice takes the steam out of those who seek to drive a wedge between members of his family. You try and separate the wheat from chaff while the grass is still growing. Do not deny me a cup of water. It is heart wrenching to see you standing where we are two or more gathered and hear you talking in your sleep about how god for you is found in the company of books. The bible is useful for instruction bur never for being in the presence of god. What are you going to do, read to him? To be in the presence of god and the presence of a text book are not the same thing. Your organization is not the gatekeeper of the kingdom and you are locking the flock up as fast as your black suited wolf pack can trick them into entering your lair. You must trick because blackness and bleakness in your measure of the world and slander against the children of god, born in sin, does not appeal. You have another problem that you are sweeping under the rug, perhaps because you don't know how to read at face value but can only or are allowed only to spin according to your organizations codified interpretation. There is only room for 144,ooo around the table. You just reported a much larger number of members. Do you guys struggle to keep your place in line. Are you rewarding and scolding each other and dissing the world at large while you peck away at individuals.
    I use colorful language to impress upon you the truly distorted program of seeking to carve out a piece of the body of man and disregard where the rest live. Because you have in your mind that none are worthy but some are more not worthy than others. and you believe in some kind proportional certainty of this it is not possible for you to see the light of the body because you focus on bringing bodies into your rooms and stuffing them. If the eye is sound the whole body appears full of light, but if the light in you be darkness well black is more your color. Do you not hear yourself slandering the creation of god when you speak of mother earth and father sun? Your rancid dishonor does not abide long in the land and the lilies of the field have no opportunity for your consideration. They neither toil nor spin but they outshine the industry of your corporation and in comparison together side by side you have a picture that speaks volumes. You are hastily entombing yourselves while the dawn is breaking. "You have already missed the sunrise because you are so into that dingy edifice. But right here are all the rejoicing voices that can be heard as the tweets of the air peal across the sky from horizon to horizon.

    It is a brutal assault on the innocent to say to them unless you believe as we do you have no place in gods kingdom. And you cannot hear gods voice unless we approve His house has many rooms. You have no say in whom god selects or what stations he occupies nor any inkling of what garment is suitable for dining at the table. Your worth or your brothers value are not for you to decide for god gives his son his value. You are not seeing what is in front of you because you have your nose haughtily stuck in your cracked book and you do not see anyone but look only for your naive marks. look up and look around. Seek and you will find, knock and it will be opened to you, ask and you shall receive. YOU are convinced all is yet to come and so you are not vigilant for god you gossip about him. I do know you are vigilant promulgator for satan in the world. and perhaps someday you will do the same for god. It is by this they shall know my disciples that they love one another.
     
  4. thedope

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    Wisdom is attained in living studiously. This evil generation seeks signs, Do you like what you see?

    Perhaps you should listen for a while until you can speak with conscious authority instead of telling us you meant of course something different.

    The only authority you have at the moment is the authority to give to them who ask.

    Start trying to answer the questions that you really don't know how to respond to. 'the bible cant help you keep up with the quickened spirit. But it won't hurt you to discover light that you didn't know you had.
     
  5. thefutureawaits

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    The devil has sowed the field with weeds, which are meant to confuse many. The bible is Gods word. He teaches through his representatives his will, his personality and intentions. The writers of the Scriptures wrote them as a warning for us to be AWAKE and recognize Satans machinations.
     
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    the light keeps getting brighter and brighter as the pace of the world quickens.
     
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    I've only had the opportunity to listen to

    Are you confused. You don't know the difference between a weed and a lily. The devil means slanderer. If you must speak in terms of weeds that choke out the growing grain. God created the world and all that is in it. The weed that chokes the spirit is that evil dwells where only god can enter. the devil doesn't plant things that grow. There is no living thing that abides slander. we know a weed from a flower and that represents no deceit. We have been told to consider the difference between what has to be ;labored over and the grace of god. You have been taught to be vigilant for satan as can be seen by your own presentation. Those who awaken have been vigilant only for god. What we awake from is the nightmare of hideous deceit you find yourself contending with and repeating this very moment. You are dreaming of monsters and hoping for god to return. Stop regurgitating that line that has already been exposed to serve you poorly as you show nothing but say it is everywhere. Poor boy. You don;t even register. I don't hear your spirit i hear you argue for belief that has no living presence.
    As you do unto the least of these my brethren you do also unto me. You heard nothing from the spirit that is in you but have told me a story that you believe in. 'your very need to gossip about what exists out there demonstrates that you have no idea how to answer your brothers request. I don't offer that others should look somewhere else for the spirit that can only be found where god put it, in man.
     
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    What light? The fast pace of the world does not produce light. The reason we go fast is that everything escapes us the more we look out there for direction. The light.Something you point to, a stranger you think has been dimmed? The light has only been obscured, scabbed over after our eyes had been blackened for reaching out and touching something that someone had claimed for themselves to the exclusion of everyone else. We don't come out as a matter of our sinful nature fighting we come into an ancient and weary slog of burying each other. Man is not sinful, he sins. To sin is to mistake one thing for another and in so doing we act without guidance because we respond to what we see. Good thing you don't see much or offer much guidance. Go and sin no more.
     
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    You don't put a lamp under the bed do you?
    A seed must be put in the fine soil and then cultivated. Mere belief is not enough, the demons believe and they shudder in fear of the true God.
     
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    Do you have any other interests? Hobbies?
     
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    How did the situation change after the alleged resurrection? And what was the situation before the alleged resurrection?
     
  12. NoxiousGas

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    go read it for yourself, this isn't sunday school class.
     
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    You speak of this as if you believe it to be true. And since you brought it up, I thought you wouldn't have a problem explaining your statement. I just figured that it would be on the tip of your tongue. My mistake.
     
  14. NoxiousGas

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    No, I speak as if it is what is written in the source material and why I say go read it for yourself, so there is no confusion about whether or not it is "my belief" or what the text reports.
    Honestly if more of you "atheist" actually took a little time to familiarize yourselves with the subject matter, you wouldn't be stuffing both feet in your mouths so frequently.
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

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    Not everyone who thinks religion is a farce is an Atheist.
     
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    Okay, just to be clear, you don't believe it to be true. Therefore, nothing changed after the alleged resurrection, because no one knows what the situation was before the alleged resurrection. I get it.

    And perhaps you should find out whether or not I'm an atheist before you stick your foot in your mouth again.
     
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    You are not relaying anything tangible as far as the substance of your beliefs nor are you connecting in a contextually consistent way with what I am asking you. I asked you what light? Why are you asking me about my light. It is right in front of you. You are simply not practiced enough to perturb my structure which is built on the bedrock of personal familiarity over a long time. You cannot teach me about god with phrases which you have not considered the depth of. You have not been taught to consider deeply nor to apprehend the material first hand. You have been taught to follow an interpretation that is not all around illuminating but narrowly construed by your elders. Your elders I should tell you are no better than you at having a conversation of meaning as opposed to positing verbatim phrases which are dogmatic. Those dogmatic statements which offer no additional editorial understanding of meaning are useless. You repeat these phrases over and over again and over and over again they reiterate the same unmoving unexamined dogmatic exposition which substitutes even for the simplest real understanding. Your belief is too wrapped in catch phrases that substitute for fluency. You have put together here more of what i have told you not to offer me. Your one legitimate authority right now is to give to those who ask. That is the only thing you are capable of assisting with. If you believe you have some other authority other than this tell me about it. You are the only thing right now you have that has any ongoing value. Your dogmatic repetition does not clue you in to new understanding. To open them up to light learn the essential meaning of the words and use that meaning in conversation instead of always trying to explain what you haven't explained with yet more phrases that do not expound on the substance of the teaching but reiterate yet again the dogma that is already there without any intervening considerations on your your part. This exhibition shows that you do not know how to teach because you only know to copy and regurgitate. The phrases in the bible are not there to explain or support the bible. 'the phrases in the bible are there to to be applied to life to reveal meaning in life.
    You simply do not comprehend how to apply meaning in conjunction with real things. You only understand your thought system in a closed environment because you believe god is off in the future somewhere.

    If I ask you for milk don't switch up and offer soda pop instead. don't give me stone when I ask for bread. You are not here to instruct me about god God is present. You can present yourself and we will discover more in one post than we have since we started talking months ago.
     
  18. NoxiousGas

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    I'm pretty certain I didn't declare what I believe one way or the other, merely what the text reports.
     
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    fair enough, how about those opposed to Christianity should take the time to actually know the source material so they don't look like fools when they make claims concerning what the Bible does or does not say.

    And let me also be clear that I would be exactly the same way on any subject or topic whenever the source or reference material is easily available for anyone to look at.
    it just so happens that this site is rife with folks who think they know what the Bible reports and time and again illustrate their ignorance whenever they try to make a case against it.
    the best way to discredit anything is to become intimately familiar with it.
     
  20. thedope

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    I'll give it a whirl. I approach this by examining today"s personal process which is the same personal process that allowed it to be taught. Obviously this is a treatment not considered commonly. we usually hear the effort to explain the party line and build a convoluted theological dogma or back history to fit. Jesus is the vanguard of our metamorphosis. The living example exists now in our one mind. the situation didn't change, it matured. The absence of any consciousness of this can be explained in the mythological story. Ie jesus is posited here from above pristine complete and totally alien.
    This puts him outside the common process. We all come from above as seeds. It is the one who goes through the physical process to the point of maturation into the next platform. This whole thing has never been chaotic spastic disorganized or improperly attended. This is the period of maturation. It's not an effort but unfolds in the way all types do. We have been thinking we were above or somehow not part of the gaian community and that we were racing ahead of our bonds. It is hubris. we are raised up with the growth of the whole immediate system. and we thought we were creating ourselves. well we are discovering ourselves as we grow in time and space. It is fascinating to observe from behind your own eyes. There is uneven growth but never through personally accelerated, no exceptionally bright cases, no superstars, but through the personally repressed. Fear of flying. We don't build ourselves bigger we are unwrapped from our shell so we can expand.
     
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