God says atheists are "fools"!

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by ClintonsSon, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    I'm agnostic theist... I would believe in any god or anything if any truly good evidence existed for it.

    But I certainly haven't seen any for the Christian god as of yet.

    Have you, ClintonsSon?
     
  2. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    People are not fools just for undecided belonging in the value systems they have come across, only deep Or shallow. Belonging to some concern is one thing; actually believing in some idea for it is another. There is much to feel encouraged by the word about, and fools are the ones who get as much encouraged as not. But really the matter of faith is where the acceptance of oneself as a fool or not begins.

    But then there are the periods in life where there exist essential non-believing. That is not foolish; it is just a stinking way of not upholding one's Conscience. We live in a free country of choosing one's religion and form for socializing.
     
  3. Todd_99

    Todd_99 Member

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    Sure you're an agnostic theist? Sounds more like you're an agnostic atheist.
     
  4. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    I meant evidence for a specific god.

    I just think a god of some kind seems likely considering the Universe, consciousness, etc.
     
  5. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    God the all-knowing has evidence for the World and why it Exists. Who for man knows this; he must be the fool of the predicate HAVE. God has and man has; thus the competition of the devil with God.

    Nevertheless, this is all Kantianism over the EVIDENCE had. Evidence had is for many a scientist like the SUBSTANCE of evidence had. But normal people like to go on fooling the scientists that they knew just being. Specialism. :biker:
     
  6. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    The knowledge of believing. I believe that George Bush on a trip to England asserted: I believe that I believe. But that it would be cared about, known well: I know that I have faith in one of those sectarian families in Iraq, in Ireland. Lib families talk: I am believing that I believe, or we believe but we really don't believe. Lets get liberal about our faithful following George Bush wanted to share with the Hezbollah too.:biker:
     
  7. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    My imaginary friend says you're "stupid"!
     
  8. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    And why recently, all the confidence in humility for the all-knowing God? We, each one of us, is partial knowing. But I personally am Christian, possibly well-connected with post-communist patriotic fervour. Thus, this makes know sense to me. The doctor knows my physiological state of partial knowing with respect to God: I'll add the deceiver.

    http://www.linkedin.com/groups/God-is-sarvagya-allknowing-Im-4667311.S.198914418

    the doctor wants to BE GOD.:smilielol5:
     
  9. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    god doesn't say anything. people who write books say good says this and that, but it is only other humans saying this.
     
  10. Bunnielight

    Bunnielight Member

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    Atheists are seen as fools because christians view those that follow science to be vulnerable to the devils manipulation.

    Christians tend to view things in a very black and white manner to scare people into "believing" in god. By default, they fear anything outside their belief because it is unfamiilar. Unfamiliarity means you can't control it.

    We're hoodlums because we listen to science, basically.
     
  11. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    but it still isn't god, a god, or any god, saying that. entirely aside from questions of its nature or even existence, but only humans claiming that it does, for none other then their own very human reasons.
     
  12. Bunnielight

    Bunnielight Member

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    Which is the exact reason that I am an atheist. Why do we want to think that there is some great omnipotent being that we are in the likeness of? Why are WE that special? The potential existence of god (namely the christian god because that's what I am more familiar with) affects no one BUT human beings.

    We're considered fools for calling this fact out and for seeing humans as we really are: selfish and demeaning of other creatures for our own benefit and need for some sort of textbook reason for living.
     
  13. LornaDoom

    LornaDoom Senior Member

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    It probably does not say that athiests are fools..

    probably says that he/she that does not take note of the words written inside this book is a fool..which is true, the bible is gold, answers all the questions you can have. I love the bible, I love God
     
  14. EventHorizon

    EventHorizon Member

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    Oh yeah?

    Well tell God he's a doo doo head.
     
  15. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    "Is this purpose what you want, or what it wants?" Same as: am I a fool to ask you this question of the flat lined English exchange of discussion? I was interested to ask that of a person wandering for the answer for Life while thinking with the knowledge from the computer's storage in a uncertainty of prediction. Was the question to be better directed to "you", the fool:)
     
  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    God said the OP stinks.
     
  17. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    So by your own statement that means that God condemns some to your Hell automatically by not giving them the God gene? Seems rather harsh for a "moral" God to do such a thing. Oh wait God is only as moral as the people who are writing about Him.
    Western religion has always used it's holier than thou viewpoints to condemn those who don't share in those viewpoints.

    Something tells me you havn't met very many cultured athiests. Since when does a God like your's have any right to talk about who is moral or not? Have you read all the immoral things that God did in the bible? Try finding the one that says if you hit your parental then you can be condemned to death by God's "law". Yep sounds real moral to me.
    Quite right man, quite right.

    So if you're for a literal reading of the bible then you believe that the Earth was created before anything else in the universe, that humanity was literally formed from dust, that a giant whale ate a man and carried him to a far off city somewhere? Man I really do wish life was like that. I'd love to have someone who could turn all my water into wine :D
    Very true Nox very true. Wisdom must temper knowledge.

    I'd love to see how it answers all these questions. I studied the bible the for 17 years of my life and I honestly walked away with more questions than answers. As an example, I'll start with a couple of verses.
    Romans 3:23
    for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
    Romans 10: 9-10
    That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

    Now if we are to take these verses literally we can conclude that all men and women are born inherently sinful, a doctrine that has been part of the Christian philosophy since the beginning of Catholicism. This would include babies. Now do babies who die at birth, like my two sons, or who die in the womb, or before they are old enough to actually "confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," go to heaven? The literal interpretation of the bible would say no, it cannot happen because they never accepted Jesus. they were born into sin and are therefore condemned to an eternity of "fire and brimstone" because they never got to confess their belief. Where is your moral God now people? Where are your answers?

    But....I am not here to slander Christians, I am also no athiest and so I am not here to do the same with them. I am here to state that without humanity there would be no concept of morality or immorality. Take from that what you will.
     
  18. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    LOL. :rofl:
    that's just fucking stupid.
    Speaks a lot more to your ignorance of both science and religion, specifically Christianity, than to any type of fault or failing on the part of Christians in general.

    Honestly, some of you armchair theologians and Biblical scholars should keep your brilliant insights and conclusions to yourselves, you're making yourselves look like fools. :devil:
     
  19. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    And the fools are believing, and and the world shall banish the wicked with the providence of injustice wishing that there be peace. But all in all there is no War; that is the conclusive War and Peace.


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  20. Mothman

    Mothman Senior Member

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    I don't deny god. I do deny the Christian interpretation of god simply because it is evil IMO. It killed and killed and killed some more in the old testament. It condemns creatures to eternal torment if they do not accept "salvation". The fact that this thing even created a hell is sick. Why not just wink people out of existence? It allowed Job's family to die and him to suffer for the sake of proving a point or essentially making a bet with Satan. Why would a god have anything to prove to a being that is supposed to be evil? What fellowship does light have with darkness right?

    Then to top it all of he set up a situation where his son has to suffer and die to save us and then we all have to play out this crappy thing until his son returns to take some of us with him and cast the rest into the lake of fire? The only thing he left us to help us sort all of this out is a book? Really?

    Let's not forget their sick rituals of symbolically drinking the blood and eating the body of Christ known as communion. That's demonic and cannibalistic. I truthfully feel that something evil is behind the religion itself. Not that there is no god, just that Christians don't know god. They belong to some kind of cosmic parasite that tricks you into inviting it to live inside you and give it your worship and control of your life and soul.

    It gives you free will unless you are pharaoh and then it hardens your heart against god so you can play your part in his story like a puppet master. Evil evil evil. How is so much darkness simply ignored by this religions followers? Under demonic influence perhaps? Why is it that Christians are so blind and hard to wake up from this spell? Evil!

    Keep your evil religion that hates gays and kills disobedient children. Craps on this beautiful earth because it's followers think a new earth will take its place so it doesn't matter what happens to this one. How appalling and vile!
     

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