Does anyone else find the debates about whether God exists or not a little tiresome? I mean I admit it's something I have thought about a lot,been through it for myself,and kind of tried to come out the other side.The fact is we're all here,and we just have to get on with it...
To me the getting on with it is easy and it is the conversation that requires effort. I wouldn't have time for the conversation if I had not first eliminated the drudgery with enthusiasm. Perhaps it appears to you that all work and no play makes jack a dull boy?
I do love a good discussion -it is the therapy / remedy for to educate the ignorant - As I say to/encourage my Grandchildren to do Question any and every thing - you never know what you will find out
When I was about 4-5, I asked a preacher( I did not know he was a man of god at the time) if he believed in god, at a gathering, my family was at...I remember this, as my father sternly told me, never to ask anyone that question again.
It's like any other discussion, if you have a good discussion partner it doesn't get boring. And don't linger to long and keep repeating yourself. I have discussions with "professional" philosophers sometimes and it's not abnormal for us to discuss god, or any other subject, for 8 hours straight.
Often I deal with people on a business level and so it never comes up. With family it does and sometimes acquaintances and if it was kinda short I don't mind at all, I sure don't hate the idea but if it gets to a push and shove about where I should be or that my life is empty till I do this or that, or peeps start reciting scriptures out of the book to me as they see them then I get bored really quick. I am not an atheist but I have me set ways and understand them. It means I know where my life is and how it should be what it is. I am confident I am where I want to be and who I am so I don't need anyone else pushing anything on me. Anyone can tell me how they feel and love or dislike on anything but to try and drive me to something isn't ever gonna work. The old saying, you can walk a horse to water but you can't make Her drink it. My mom says I am the hardest headed person she knows but she understands me and most of my friends do too. I will buck heads with anyone and I can talk my way out of anything and even convince peeps to let go.
God and religion can be enjoyable to discuss as long as neither side is trying to change the other's mind.
Most threads that mention 'god' in the title do. Same as most threads that mention 'marijuana' in the title turn into a marijuana conversation.
Obviously, there wouldn't be any such discussion/s if there were an answer/s. No debate about the color of the sky. There's an answer. No debate whether there is a moon circling the earth. There's an answer. And so forth. I guess it was interesting for me as a discussion when I was 15 or 16. I soon learned that we, as humans in our present forms cannot have an answer. Faith, of course--but no answer. Perhaps those that worry about this so much are mainly reinforcing the belief and hope that we'll never disappear, but that we will be ourselves in an another place after the flesh falls off the bones. In other words---we're not meant to know---and we don't. I hope that there is a big 'ol god to take care of me when I putrify--but I'm not counting on it. If this little ball we call earth was molten rock some billions of years ago----then that means plants, animals, trees, water and all else that exists(or has existed) here---CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
In saying that, you acknowledge some sort of higher power that gives us meaning -and things we aren't meant to know. I think we just are in our intellectual infancy and too undeveloped to know (yet).
With the right conversation partner, religious debates can be enlightening and fun. Generally, people start descending into petty, repetitive arguments and personal attacks. Then it isn't valuable anymore .
(To post 12)Possible. By somewhere else, I meant some cosmic mechanism like asteroids containing the building blocks of life. See, my thing against the idea of divine presence is the present and past conditions humans have made of this--here joint. But that's another story.
I know (as far as I can possibly know) we come from somewhere else, I was not debating that. According to popular contemporary science, we are all direct descendants of the Big Bang itself.