God (or gods) do not exist

actully.... no it didn't... that's just a fantasy.... but you feel free to walk around with a bucket on your head!!

 

i think people like jesusdiedforu do a great disservice to all of the rational thinking christians out there.

 

Well I gave a quick overview of the text, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont see God telling anyone to do this. This appers to be a group that has taken the law into their own hands. Can you show me which verse states that this was Gods idea?

 

What do you consider a rational thinking christian?

 

one who lives the TEACHINGS of jesus, rather than worshipping the person of jesus. and one who takes the stories of the bible as symbols and metaphors for life rather than reading too far into them and taking them literally.
Its so sad to see how flawed some christians understanding of their own religion is. You set aside every teaching of Jesus except the one which tells you to believe in him and worship him (which, might i add, is the easiest of his messages)

 

Then what you are saying is, that even when the evidence points to the Bible as actually occuring. A rational Christian will ignore that evidence. And even when the Bible states that there were those who worshipped Jesus a rational Christian will ignore that to. Actually, this kind of reaction to the Bible sounds more like a non Christian approach. See, the Christian believes in the literal fulfillment of the stories because of the evidences given and discovered. The non Christian refuses to consider that evidence, because they donot want to give Christ His rightful place. It's more comfortable, to keep Him in His human frame of reference, and ignore who He really is. Yet the Bible states, that at the end of time, every knee will bend, and every mouth will confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord.

The Real Mount Sinai
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/MtSinaiPAX.htm
The Red Sea Crossing
http://www.bibleprobe.com/exodus.htm
The Eastern Gate
http://www.harpazo.net/easterngate.html

 

campbell34, Pi = 3, right?

 

There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.

 

"Actually, this kind of reaction to the Bible sounds more like a non Christian approach. "

in that case, christians are niave assholes!

 

Bravo colours!!

Some skeptics disregard the mythos and in doing so disregard the message (throwing out the baby with the bathwater).

Some "Christians" focus on the mythos, and disregard the message (drowning the baby in the bathwater).

 

Good way to avoid the question... chat utter shit.

Do snakes eat dust?

 

correct. at least, the menfolk. the women get handed around like sacks of flour with vaginas.

 

in the second example i gave, it was moses, who had been commanded by god to attack midian, commanding the israelites
in the first example, you are correct - it was a decision made by an assembly of god's people.

there is also places like;
Deut 21 10 “When you go out to war against your enemies, and the LORD your God delivers them into your hand, and you take them captive, 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her and would take her for your wife, 12 then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails...

Deut 20 3"He shall say to them, 'Hear, O Israel, you are approaching the battle against your enemies today. Do not be fainthearted. (C)Do not be afraid, or panic, or tremble before them, 4for the LORD your God (D)is the one who goes with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.'..
13"When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, (I)you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. 14"Only the women and the children and (J)the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you.

2 Sam 12 11 Thus says the LORD: ‘Behold, I will raise up adversity against you from your own house; and I will take your wives before your eyes and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun. 12 For you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel, before the sun.’”

Ex 21 7 “And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. 8 If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully with her.

Deut 22 20 “But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, 21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father’s house. So you shall put away the evil from among you.
(not an instance of rape, but murder a girl because she's not a virgin)

 

try and convince me that your god (or aliens, or sofa) is real and worthy of worship.


God exists the moment you spoke the word God, and thus created a God existence in your own weak mind.

A cheap existence un-worthy of worship you say?

Worship the symbolic athority of your God, and you compensate for your own lack of authority.

Worship God to compensate for your lack of balls.

Worship God and you'll be freer from you neurotic preoccupations with your own inadequacy.

Worship is better than what ya got; nothing!

 

there is nothing, there is no big pay off, it's faith, you have your soul I have mine, I wish you luck with your choice, I don't agree with it, but I wish you luck with it.....

 

Considering Deut. 21:10 further study would bring you to the understanding that a woman that was taken captive would not be raped by anyone. This was considered wrong. This woman would be given 30 days to mourn for the loss of loved ones, and only if she accepted the offer of marriage afterwards, would that event take place.
Deut 22:20 speaks of stoning a woman to death who was accused by her husband of adultry. Stoning for adultery was to be carried out for both men and woman. Yet I'm sure woman got stoned more often. The Bible took adultery much more seriously back then, certainly it is not like we find today, where so many just sleep around. Today in nations such as Africa where there is a lot of this going on, entire populations are dieing off. The God of the Bible knew what this kind of conduct would result in, so He took what seems to us as extream measures to stop it. In the west we have a whole industry working to invent drugs to hold back the tide of unchecked germs that would be spread through the population. Yet, in many places in Africa it is at the same level as we would find in Biblical times. With no drugs at their disposal, they had little choice but to discourage this kind of life style. Today we would consider this barbaric, yet, considering all the men, woman, and children who have died of just Aids alone, which solution seems worse. It really comes down to prevention, or cure.

 

Your question appeared to be a bit off topic, and was asked without an explanation of why you even asked it. Plus I don't consider God's Word, utter shit. So tell me, why did you ask the question?

 

You really need to consider the evidence they are now finding that supports the Bible. The evidence is there, but if you keep shooting your mouth off long enought, maybe you can ignore it.

 

hey, led zepplin wrote a song that went a little something like this: "If it keeps on raining. the levees gonna break, when the levee breaks ill have no palce to stay"
With all this new evidence of levees breaking, and thousands of people left without homes, is led zeppelin worthy of my worship?

 

You was trying to say that the bible was the word of god, therefore has to be correct in everyway.

But, there are many errors in the bible, for example, Pi (which is the mathamatical calculation to work out the circumference of an object from it's diameter) is 3.1415(etc....), but in the bible, if you read the text, it's leads you to believe that it's exactly 3..

Regarding the question about snakes, according to genesis, as punishment for making eve eat the forbidden fruit, snakes were cursed to travel around on their belly (ok, so far so good) and forced to eat dust and dirt... do snakes eat dust and dirt? No, no they do not. (i've even seen a snake eat a pig, nasty stuff)

They are just 2 very small examples of the bible being wrong, and yet you trust it with your life... you fool.

Oh, and you're right, god's word itself is not utter shit, because god does not exist, there for his word does not exist... the utter shit is the stuff that people who claim to speak for god say.. such as, well... yourself.



And you know what, if I tell of word of a lie, let god strike me down now.











































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