God is Love?

True. These are what you go by the filter reality. If we didn't (and some of us don't--serial killers, cults, etc.) the world would be much more dangerous than it is today.

Again, because you can't prove there is a God, the idea is to say "Well, you can't prove there isn't"... this (as I have already pointed out) is a logical fallacy. Lack of proof isn't proof.
The focus of the post was the Christian/Biblical definition of God. I know that there are 47,000 different versions of Christianity and everybody thinks their version is right and the other versions aren't "real" Christianity.
But, realistically, If I had to chase down the "right" version or the "right" version of God, it would take more lifetimes than I have (which is 1 ironically). Thus, I see no evidence which is sufficient to me, others take the slightest bit of "evidence" and apply it.
The Christian's "commission" is to "win souls", but my "commission" is to reveal religion as the cankered worm of false hopes and promises built upon lies, myths, superstitions and mostly FEAR. I don't beat people over the head with it, but if my argument seems strong--it is only passion. My viewpoints are just as passionate to me and the Christian trying to win my "soul".

I agree, but who is doing the "enforcing"? Through legislation and their actions to squash freedom? Religious zealots! Normally I do not resort to "ad hominem" attacks, unless I run into a smartass. And "fuck" is a great word, I use in my vocabulary all the time.
The "representations" of "God" to be may be gentle, but there still false. There has been no reason for me to turn from reason and make a giant leap into transcendental la-la land. Don't you think if "God" existed and "he" made me, "he" knows people are different and some can be convinced more easily than others. Wouldn't "almighty" know what it would take to convince me? And he was "all-good", wouldn't he try his best to do so?

Ahhh...but "faith"... I am sorry, but this argument falls flat. There two kinds of "faith". Reasonable and blind. Reasonable is "faith" based on sufficient evidence. "blind" is just believing without it or even against it.

Hold your horses...this is completely different. You don't label all people because they are different. But, the supernatural (regardless of variation) is still the same in a general sense.
This isn't to question or defame different "interpretations", but to unload on the entire realm of superstition because it flies in the face of science and reason. If you can produce evidence (even a shred) of viable evidence for the supernatural, I would gladly delve into the differences. However, since every past mystery that has now been solved has been explained naturally and zero have been explained supernaturally, I would go with the most reasonable path.
The "mysteries" of the past that have been attributed to the supernatural that science has now explained seems foolish to us today (volcano gods, etc.), but it didn't back then. Just as today, many people run to churches and synagogues and praise the Invisible Man and that seems foolish to me, but not to them. I do believe, however, science is on my side in this one. If not, oh well...I was wrong. Somehow, with the odds, I doubt this will be the outcome.

What you seem to be describing is a hope based on an emotion. You are describing "what God is to you" and this is extremely subjective, thus it doesn't explain anything to help the objective argument that "god" exists. It just means that your version of "god" exists to you.

 

I dont want to prove that GOD is real ..
I know what I know and the only thing left that really matters is faith and action..

the rest is just blah blah blah ...I initially intended to give my version of what I think is meant by the statement -God is Love ..but I got off on several branches of this n that and the other in the process as its easy to do ...as for "supernatural" .. now if that is what GOD is meant or evidenced to be to you....then I DO have a large numbers of mutual witnessed events, but I pefer to keep those stories to myself. I want to know who believes in what is thought to be the opposite of Love ...and who represents that according to the sterotypes of man ...could that be "Satan" ..hmmmm if you only knew my version of that then you would really be confused about what my truest convictions are.. but the truth is that I dont have any label so cannot say that I have conviction of either side nor trying to "save" a soul .. and I do however question it "all" - there is a very interesting story there about who Saton the mighty horned creature really is ( sarcastically said ) , but I am sure you could integrate it here better than I ...every contrast holds a role with the other ...so it has everything to do with it. Sometimes people try to put something into a dark light in effort to deflect from something else that holds a dark light already. Its truly not necessary to sway anyone ....but to share this possibilities to me are bringing us closer to what it all really is ..
As for emotions .. not really.... I havnt jumped out of my skin yet and I have still retained my position as a juror .. lol ...

 

I agree except for one area. I think what really matters is REASON and ACTION.

OR...love is simply an emotion which comes from the stimulation of the neurons in the brain--like every other emotion. The opposite of love? Well, that again is an emotion as well. And emotions are not objective, but very subjective.
What gets me is all these people who attribute some mystical, starry-eyed definition to this emotion. People "fall in love" all the time. People "fall out of love" all the time. Love is merely showing an affection towards someone based on the circumstances involving you and that person.

These myths (Satan and such) are nothing but nice stories with some moral behind them or used to scare people into believing dogma. All the mystics talk about these stories as if they are "real", when actually they are merely symbolic.

Emotions are merely reflections of desires, fears or reactions to such based on prior experience. Going strictly by them (like religious zealots do) is hazardous to everyone else's health.

 

I think most require their own physical experience in order to make their own choice when it has nothing to do with blind faith in anything..and when and if that comes is in its own time and way ..what way they perceive is interesting ...emotions .. hmmm... they are real .. and valuable however there are "imbalances" ...learning to recognize the imbalances should not be to hard to do ...well I am back at work since I feel better so I best get to it ....this has been fun ..

 

Be good, girl.

 

ok .. you be bad so we can keep the balance .. eh .?... lol .. hugs-

 

I've got that down to a science.

 

I agree... I think God bestows his blessings to people even if they are not Christians. God is all around us, eventhough there is so much ungodliness in the world. People will show Godly characteristics even if they don't believe in Him... because whether they are aware of it or not, THEY are made in God's image.

 

Whether you know it or not, god IS made in Man's image.

Let's not discuss "god's Existence", let's just assume He is?

Wow, even MORE reasons why religion blows.

The mentality of those who just "assume" and go with the cultic flow of things are the exact OPPOSITE of what it is to be free, think for oneself and question authority.

It makes me wonder something...

How many times will I hear the "Argument from Ignorance" as an argument?

How many times will I hear "just don't try to prove it or disprove it, just realize that 'god' is everywhere, god is this and that...god is the universe or god made the universe or god took a giant shit and that is the universe...

The fact is that NOBODY could refute the BLATANT obvious fuck-ups pointed out as the sole purpose of this thread. Nobody. Not one.

It was either "we don't understand", "you can't disprove god", "god is this", "god is that", "my version of god is the real one", "those weren't real Christians", "you're going to hell"...etc etc...

This is about what I guessed would happen.

But, sadly, I wanted more.

 

If you're asking humans to point you to God all they can give you is human answers.

 

Personally, I am not asking anyone to "point me to God" seeing that I disbelieve in such an entity. What I am asking is simple: GIVE ME A VIABLE REASON TO CONSIDER THAT THIS BELIEF IS BASED ON SOMETHING CONCRETE AND NOT EMOTIONAL, CULTIC, SHEEP-FAITH.

Sadly, I expected more from the Christians to provide better answers to the question posed at the start. To defend their faith with the weapons of reason, instead of emotion and spooky language.

That was the whole point. It has yet to happen.

 

you can only have your own experience becuase even then its all just a story ...I am sure you might ..and we will see how it is perceived

 

My experience is with the Sun. I worship the Sun. I can see the Sun, feel the Sun, see what the Sun does and prove it scientifically. It is the true "light of the world", "all-seer" and "provider".

However, I don't pray or sing praises to Sun, because it doesn't care. It does what it does without all the glory and hype. Because the Sun is much more reliable and non-judgmental than any "god".

It doesn't demand worship. It doesn't threaten me with harsh afterlife punishments. It doesn't even need me to acknowledge it like some other "jealous" gods who have to have human recognition to satisfy their bloodlust.

Most of all it doesn't need a bunch of people to come up with apologetics, manipulations and sophistry to defend or save it!!

 

"I come not to bring peace, but a sword...", even the Godfather of hippieness Jesus of Nazareth, whose person I myself hold in high regard, has inherited a few features of his father, it seems...

I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing a few oddities in the scriptures, Libertine. Makes me glad god doesn't exist, or else the world would be in even worse shape.

 

I am glad their interpretations of what some men claim God don't exist .. nice stories all around ...mmm as for the sun .. it is a constant ..and that really got my attention .. yes the SUN ..... ahhhhhhh in all the ways that you stated

 

Well, at least the Sun doesn't love you like "god" -- the Holy Murderer.

Jee-ho-vee in the Sky with swords who poisons complainers, burns whiners, commits mass slaughters, delights in those who smash infants, commits genocide, causes cannibalism, demands heads, commands rape, commands plunder, assists mutilations, gives disease, slaughters children through animals, commands child sacrifice, drowns entire civilizations, etc.

Hallelujah! Glory! Sieg Heil!!

Jesus' daddy makes Hitler look like a choir boy. And Jesus said, "I and the Father are one". God "changes not".

And then Jesus, the Holy Murderer's son, came to "divide" and bring a sword, not peace. To separate families and demand hatred of your parents to serve him. Demand abandoment of your family to follow him. And if you don't like his preaching and you don't follow him-- you go to a NEVER-ENDING, FIERY OVEN where you will gnash your teeth, beg for water, and burn forever and ever and ever...with NO chance of escape.

Now THAT is Love!!!! GLORY!!!!!!!

 

Kiss your mom w/that mouth? I am Amber and I can tell people they are gunna burn in hell if they dont get there life straight with God buddy!! I only speak the truth thank you very much. Oh isnt that nice a crusifix dildo,you got ur self 1 point for being on a lil yellow school bus. I love my parents very much thanks.

 

Fuzzy was pissed because you had the audacity to tell me I was going to burn in hell. As I know that is your belief and you are entitled to it. However, your belief has no bearing on my reality, so I could careless about threats from the netherworld.

In the meantime, try to debate points of the issues instead of vile threats from your Holy Commander. It makes you look more sane and humane.

 

Do You believe in God? Will you ever believe in God? Do you believe Jesus can save you?

 

you said
Jee-ho-vee in the Sky with swords who poisons complainers, burns whiners, commits mass slaughters, delights in those who smash infants, commits genocide, causes cannibalism, demands heads, commands rape, commands plunder, assists mutilations, gives disease, slaughters children through animals, commands child sacrifice, drowns entire civilizations, etc.

Hallelujah! Glory! Sieg Heil!!

Jesus' daddy makes Hitler look like a choir boy. And Jesus said, "I and the Father are one". God "changes not".

And then Jesus, the Holy Murderer's son, came to "divide" and bring a sword, not peace. To separate families and demand hatred of your parents to serve him. Demand abandoment of your family to follow him. And if you don't like his preaching and you don't follow him-- you go to a NEVER-ENDING, FIERY OVEN where you will gnash your teeth, beg for water, and burn forever and ever and ever...with NO chance of escape.

and I say ...man I didnt like those stories either ... ehhh wheres is the tylenol ..???