God exists...I promise.

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Yeal, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. aydinerro

    aydinerro Member

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    as are you!
     
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    Mothman Senior Member

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    What did you discover? about yourself and about God? What did God's presence feel like?
     
  3. lostminty

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    Can anyone explain infinity?

    I'm stuck on thinking about galieo's idea of it

    take a circle
    draw infinite infinitly thin lines from its centre to the edges,
    you now have a line touching every point on the circles edge
    draw a larger circle around that circle
    extend the lines to the larger circles edge
    there are infinite lines just as before, but now there are gaps between those lines

    :(
     
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    In my experience god is very viscous as you approach ermmm it? theres this crazy drag going on...reminds me of reynolds theroum...where you have every day life and it flows freely, but theres this point you cross and very quickly the turbulance kicks in, and that turbulance is the flow gripping to the walls that contain us
     
  5. Yeal

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    Infinity isn't endless time, but rather timelessness, or no time. God lives in the realm in which time doesn't exist. That is the concept of infinity.
     
  6. Yeal

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    What I discovered was God within myself. When you hear in all the movies "The truth lies within", they aren't kidding. While were on the topic "Follow your heart" is a good one too.

    I don't know this for sure, but I think every living thing is a fragment of the consciousness of God. All part of the same whole. The reason I express this with uncertainty is because I only know for sure that I exist. I don't know for sure if anyone else out there is real.

    God's presence wasn't like having a visitor come into your house. It's not that kind of presence. The only way I can hope to describe it is like having a completely neutral, always present observer within my body, but yet not physically in my body.

    The neutrality, I remember, felt extremely comforting. It was one within itself, and was a part of no dualistic system. It represented the end of fighting and conflict, I think, because that which is one within itself has no other to fight, nor does it have a desire to fight.

    Shortly afterwards, I ran around my house jumping and shouting for joy like a child.
     
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    So if you extend the now out to the future and the past...like all the way, then instead of having LOTS of time, you have none?

    you go from a little, to a lot, to heaps, to over 5000, to none?

    No...I believe you are describing the flip side of the coin, where as infinity is the edge, the precipace
     
  8. Yeal

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    You misunderstood what I've said. When I say no time, I don't mean Hiro Nakamura freezing time. Time represents change, more or less. We live in a universe governed by a dualistic nature, and we are all bound by impermanence, that is, everything that ever was, is, or will be, will one day not exist. Our universe is subject to these laws as well. Our universe will not be around forever, so how can infinity exist within something that eventually will die? The answer lies in timelessness. Not time frozen, but existance within the absence of time. Sorry if that was hard to follow.
     
  9. pineapple08

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    I wonder which image of God the marque de sade would put his signature too, this or the cross?
     
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    That's a really confusing definition of it, tbh.

    I think humans are too intrinsically aware of mortality, cessation, being and not being, that the idea of infinity is impossible for us to grasp instinctively. I think we always have to make a leap somewhere along the lines and it's better to do it early on.
     
  11. Yeal

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    I'm confused. What exactly do you mean by being and not being?
     
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