God does not exist

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  1. thedope

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    You are attempting to lead my witness counselor. I will say that that level of identification invariably leads to depression. Life's potential to hold matter to itself indefinitely is certainly unobserved to those who equate decay or change with the demise of their own good self.




    Initially, nothing. I have always said the thought comes first in connection with the process of creation. I deal with the practical nature of these questions, I am not trying to start a religion.



    The dexterity of my sphincter is equal to any mans. Every moment is complete, every moment is new.



    Memory is selective forgetting in this instance. We accord a man more credit than his history, or his story, is apt to inspire. In this way we find ourselves deserving of confidence and we create an out of time interval, as the past is excused, to allow new being to emerge. It is in this out of time interval that miraculous things transpire. You cannot love, as conscious action, that which you find abhorrent to your self.
     
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    Love does sustain life.



    The word god is one such phenomena. Transcend the argument does god exist by coming to a common definition of the word. God is that which we invoke as good cause.

    As for concern over equal stakes. It's practicality is, storms are caused by uneven heating. I refuse to save for a rainy day or guard against the approaching storm. I change the weather.



    I know the transcendent. What is death's condition?

    Existence is always the state of being. Condition influences the way of being.

    I enjoy your corners that I may round them out. You keep saying it stops here and I always invite would't you like to go farther.
     
  3. Dejavu

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    Not even.

    Yes, but it can sustain itself. Life doesn't even have to recognize itself, let alone as love, to exist. Their sharing eachothers condition does not mean they are necessarily self-same. We do not, finally, trouble ourselves with preconditions.

    No, the word was not formed upon one. We transcend it by not coming to one.

    I can accept your meaning. Can you accept that I mean nothing at all by it since what we invoke as good cause, is what we invoke as good cause?

    I doubt it. You are closed, like your universe. Not permanently, but officiously! lol



    You haven't transcended life, your condition. Death you have not transcended either, its not having one. Not to worry, that doesn't mean you have to die. lol

    And existence is still condition :-D

    lol Funny, from where I am, it's you who keeps saying that. Particularly when sometimes you don't recall where we've gone, and retrace our steps. :-D
     
  4. thedope

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    worst reply ever



    That everything is condition is pretty much a troubling precondition.



    You lack expertise in this area of how words come to be, but Your dexterity with word combinations is better than mine. Sometimes I am genuinely surprised in what you say, which is some relief because I usually know the punchlines.
    Anyway,yes ,the word god comes from experience and the many conjugations of the word god comes from experience.

    Words are formed from inner vibration. Words are not just intellectual apprehension. When you speak a word or phrase, or anytime you contort yourself to communicate some desire or observation, you establish an inner tension or vibratory rate/pattern. It is this vibratory pattern then that sets up the large oscillation or resonance I was talking about. We get a hint of these vibrations that go out in a phrase like you could just feel the tension in the air when he walked into the room.

    There is a saying that if you look at a person with lust in your heart, you have already violated them.

    Words are symbols of conditions. Inner conditions or rates of vibration are articulated and the world we see reflects those articulations. Inner conditions
    are sensed as emotional life. It is around this intent, inner tension, that all the phenomena of our lives coalesce. Our lives appear to us sometimes as chaotic because our intent is all over the place, attracted first by one impulse and then another.


    We transcend the argument by coming to common terms. Creation is a law without opposite.
     
  5. thedope

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    I accept that you do not mean anything and in concert that perception means nothing to me either. You say I haven't transcended life and that is not my claim. To transcend is to go beyond perception. Our perceptions are bound by our beliefs that things are just so. They appear the way they do because we insist that it be so. Perception is not knowledge. If I repeat myself it is because the idea requires remedial attention, not because I didn't remember I said it. To quote a friend, you don't learn.

    My meditation is beyond symbols. I look for nothing, no representations and there is essence. I apprehend that transcendence is an existential condition,
    being. Knowledge is, being shared. Perception is representation of being. In our conversations we share only snapshots, isolated musings, if we do not earn/own our words together.

    You claim to be an immortal jelly. That simply isn't a mortal representation. It is a hope.

    So if death doesn't have a condition, then by your terms it does not exist.

    Which I wonder, is more likely, based on everyone's experience.

    The body does not die, or we are energetically free agents constituting ourselves diversely.
     
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    honestly why? Why?
     
  7. thedope

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    You should ask what for.
     
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    shh... we are proving the existence of god .


    shh means just exist , and we is the life vibration . the
    ahh in god is space . galactic is a term of ahh essence .
    humanly , ahh has a boundary since we have to live somewhere .

    reason that is not music may be allowed to fail . its tumbling
    is yet a motion , and like life is extraordinary motion , words
    can be alive also . in this word-space , proof (of god) shall be
    in the flow of words , creation song , oneness , oops .
     
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    Ahh ahh ,.... just existing. No conditional arrangements. Ahhuummm, Om, proto word, supreme being, gratitude.
     
  10. thedope

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    This ahhhh vibration is intended and from it all intents arise. Gravity galactic expression of intent. Gravity being the weakest of forces choreographing the largest movements. Our creations are not at arms length. Our volitional body is subtle and ever intimate. There are no idle thoughts.
     
  11. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    Odd. What it was in reply to was nothing that needed my reply, except that nonsense about memory being selective forgetting. :-D

    It isn't a precondition, but I can see how you'd think it is insisting that the thought comes first. Everything is its own condition, would you prefer it be everything elses? lol Does your mind need eased? Does the thought that you may enact change trouble you less? It may as easily presage doom if you have a mind to let it. Everything inherently exists. If it upsets you, look not only to what you know, but love.

    lol So what you mean to say is we transcend the argument by coming to a common experience. But don't you see? The word is still beside the point. :) We all lack expertise in the origin of words. I am sure I don't need to tell you what miracles of meaning we may yet then make of them. :-D

    My grandmother can suck eggs already.

    How twisted. Where did you dig up such a sickness?

    Glars sonder, coora dorn. Maet ta volay.

    No, we transcend the argument by transcending it. Every meaning you give to 'god' is its own already.

    What, the perception that what we invoke as good doesn't have to be god to be what it is?! LOL

    You cannot go beyond perception. Perception is knowledge always.

    LOL In our conversations, we can't help but share words. :-D You look for nothing, and there is essence? Do you mind if I ask where? lol

    You deride my meaning. I claim no such thing, not even as hope. I claim only that the mind loves the body, and can go on loving it definitely/indefinitely.

    By mine it doesn't, no. I'm not immortal. Eternity is more beautiful than I am.

    So really, you don't wonder. If we are free agents, the body doesn't have to die.

    But deep down you think it does, your body says to you, "I have my own life, and it's not yours! You're going down with the ship that I am! Sail away, sailor!" lol

    Seriously, I should give you back to god for the disgusting things you say about the body. :-D
     
  12. thedope

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    That nonsense was the rest of my statement and it was not even with what?

    You believe to see and see to believe. If you recall, I said the thought comes first in a process of creation. All that we negotiate as human beings in this world, arises from conception. It is genetic coded information that administers the order of your biological unfolding. We are infant before toddler. Our legs do not grow from our necks.

    Every thing has it's existential being, (condition). That existential being then seeks or is subjected to conditions, circumstances, (the circles you stand in), change, your existential being does not, everything being consistent unto itself, (everything, it's own condition you say.) This everything being it's own condition is what I call holiness.

    Here is a clue for you. The body is not your life. The body is the common flesh of the species. It is biologically constructed spiritually energized machine, a communication device.


    In your godless state then you would have me thrown back for not according the proper reverence? You are a peach.
     
  13. Dejavu

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    Reason that is not music? Where? Words only live in us. The proof of god shall be in god, and nothing besides, so say all puddings, forgetting themselves. And yet when they want to prove god in things they're lost too. In space. They should look to their own. We exist on top of the earth. We live in the air. What failure there is in flight is just a tumbling.
     
  14. Dejavu

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    No, that nonsense was the beginning, not the rest. lol

    No, our embodiment is our love. To make it out as mere machination is to dim the life of the mind.

    lol I was joking. If you're not, I should probably deliver a punchline.
     
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    Not even with what? It is almost as though you saw an association inspired by a hot button phrase in your mind instead of what I had written.

    This statement betrays a different sentiment than, the "I was joking", that follows.


    What can I say, i'm always joking, seriously.
     
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    The creative power of mind is not a sickness.

    VERBIM

    Transcendence dejavu?



    No, but that is what god is from a human energetic perspective.

    Everywhere. Form is defined by negative space. It is what you exclude from view or relegate to the background, that brings the object you look for into view. When I transcend I am not looking for any object and arrive in a trance that is totally without any perceptible tension, no point counter point. It is when I emerge from this state that my mind is flooded with statements of principle. Like Terence Mckenna's shamanistic downloading of a new operating system.

    By chance then?

    Then you don't have the any vision of eternities beauty and it is a theoretical assent.

    We are in the world, but not of it.
     
  17. Dejavu

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    No, but that 'saying' you fished out of some swamp or other is sick.

    Are you a collector of such things? Engage the creative power of your mind and show me the good of that 'saying'?

    You can't get over the argument insisting god be given meaning. Do you love giving it meaning? Is the common definition you would have us all reach uncommonly common enough for you yet? :)

    No, invoked good is what it is without being god.

    I have nothing against the trancers, but man I prefer to be among dancers.

    By our own.

    Time for some of your remedial attentions?

    No, we're in it, of it, about it. Which world do you think you're of?
     
  18. thedope

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    Only good is good. It is not good or bad. It is a function of the mind that the moment you intend your mind toward something then quantum arrangement begins. You send out a wave that propagates. That wave looses it's or your motive when you shift attention but that initial impulse may be picked up by someone else and amplified.
     
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    I thought you were saying only god is good. Anyway, there it is. Your take on it. Hasn't prevented me being disgusted by it. So where did you hear it?
     
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