God does not exist

Could it be that they are not concerned with your moral dilemmas? Why should they be? The world you see is the world you put there through conception. If thy eye offends thee, pluck it out.

 

Or better yet, if the world is corrupt, attempt to change it for the better.

 

You cannot stop the tide from turning but you can change your mind. Attempting gives the experience of attempting. Having and being are the same truth.
What is corrupt about nature?

 

Nature itself, nothing. The nature of man, however, it would depend upon whom you asked. Man's nature can be very corrupt.

 

Men are unnatural?
Storms are caused by uneven heating, not corruption.

 

I can speak. I don't know what you find illogical. The distinction that man has a special nature is the ego's greatest defense against the truth.

 

Science - Religion
Hypothesis - Divination
Dark Energy - Pixie Dust
Black Hole - "there be monsters here"

You can worship at the alter of "science" just as easily as god, my friend. Believe me when I say that there is much in quantum physics/mechanics that resembles metaphysics and requires an equal leap of faith.

You may require one believe system to reconcile yourself with another, but throughout the vast scope of human existence, that requirement is very new and remains very novel.

I don't question your belief or lack thereof, and I certainly don't judge you for either, but I wonder how justified you would feel proclaiming the non-existance of a venerated tree deity in the presence of an uncontacted South American tribe? Would you proudly declare that their god was false?
Would that seem appropriate, or even sensible, to do? What purpose would it serve, I wonder? Does scientific enlightenment always trump morality? It's happened before, and it's happening now - all in the name of "God" - and yet you fail to see the similarity between what you do, in the name of Science and Reason, and what Conquistadors did in the name of Gold and God. Science, logic, and reason are not immune to foolish arrogance and hypocrisy.

 

Man's opinion will always insist his truth is above logic, especially when that truth has nothing to prove itself except for man's opinion of its veracity.

 

Science admits when it is wrong, because it is always experimenting to find the truth. Religion has no truth. Religion questions nothing. Religion merely states "have faith".

 

Precisely, and I'm sorry you don't yet comprehend the value of that.

 

So. Believing the world flat does not change the curvature of the earth. If you insist on this insistence then the future will be as the past. Mans opinions are as changeable and change as often as anything else.

 

No value can be found in blind obedience, ignorant servitude.

 

You've lost me.

 

You paint yourself into a corner through your own narrative of your life. It is as you say it is.

Perception is not knowledge but can lead to it. What any of us sees is a corridor of refraction. Reflected light. Reality becomes accessible to us most securely when we ultimately realize we are responsible for what we see, what we look for and what we find. We are responsible for and to our own reflections, and that is all.

 

puking is sensible .

go on , eat the universe , puke until you are totally
empty . this is an act of rational Opposition . you'll
feel better after a bit and have learned something .

anal as an active metaphor for opposite is stupid . even
a bilge scum pirate knows that being filthy is a more effective
opposite .

to insist god does not exist exemplifies the Anal Opposite .
the strategy is irrational since to shit is not the opposite of eat .
if you think oppositely ... aha ... but , oh no !

 

Things are looking up chuck.

 

. . . to any system of belief, including science, logic and reason. I heartily agree.

 

thedope:

The imagination is real. You create me still in your image.

That's because it is spacetime. The "good of all things" as you call it, does not transcend it.

You haven't understood me. :-D If the highest is not possible as you suggest, how is it a boundary? Do you deny our wanting to give?

I see you are still on about perception not being knowledge, only leading to it! LOL
With you, knowledge appears to be a totality!

 

thedope is a pusher. It doesn't stop him being a friend of mine.

But where are the theists who can accept that god doesn't exist for the atheists?! LOL

 

singing gleefully in the atheist' church choir .