Give me at least 5 good reasons...

Reasons are like sperm. They are produced in great numbers.

But only one is needed to change your life.


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No, I am not.

 

This is quite possibly the best example of atheistic ignorance I've ever seen on these fora.

 

lol thats perfect.

 

That's a rather spurious connection; it would be ignorance regardless of whether the user was an atheist.

 

This thread has wound up making me laugh! Thanks for posting it. If someone is so damn serious about their religion to get angry at someone for not believing it than obviously a religion can be wrong. Spirituality is definitely the way to go. Lol, their is a saying that "opinions are like assholes and everyone's got one"...I have a rephrase of that saying "religions are like assholes, every one stinks the other out"

 

No, I was merely pointing out that he made sweeping comments along the lines of "All Christians vote Republican and kill Iraqi babies". Not that he critiqued my religion. I critque mine all the time.

I guess I should have meant arrogance, because ignorance denotes a lack of knowledge. I am sure relaxxx knows that all religious people aren't like that, but will forget that to make his point. I used the qualifier "atheistic" there because of Dawkins and Harris and Hitchens they ususally prop themselves as either morally and intellectually equal or superior to practicioners of religions as well as possessing more reason. That attitude is prett arrogant in my opinion. Just like a Christian who hates gays is an example of Christian intolerance, relaxx can be an example of atheistic arrogance. does that mean that athiests are all arrogant, or that relaxx is always arrogant, no. He merely demonstrated an atheistic arrogance.

 

Thanks for the compliment but my "ignorant" parody of the religious mind couldn't possibly come close to the horrifically bone chilling ignorance contained in a real creationists delusional mind.

LOL, atheistic ignorance! Let me know when atheists start flying planes into building while screaming "praise science!".

 

Thanks for creating a straw man for all religious believers. My point was that your logic is flawed. You seem to believe that if you are religious, you believe in young earth creation and vote republican. That couldn't be farthr from the truth. I don't commit acts of violence in the name of my religion. I condone acts of violence in general.

Again, I wish to rephrase when I originally wrote "ignorant" I meant arrogant. you seem to believe that because you imply that religion is bad, and therefore you are good. Maybe the "creationist mind" isn't a product of religion, but a product of delusions in general. I think Dawkins is delusional to believe that if religion was wiped off the map tomorrow that all the problems in Ireland would vanish because republican and layalist are merely euphamisms for Catholic and Protestant, as he argues in The God Delusion. Atheists aren't immune to delisions either.

 

Top 5 reasons to join my religion.

5. You will find that all humans are all roots of the same tree, and tolerance and understanding will envelope your soul.

4. Learning is the most important commandment to follow, as a human you will never be all knowing so you will be in a constant search of knowledge.

3. There is no church so no tides or offerings, what you earn is what you keep. However donating your money or time to the less fortunate is always encouraged.

2. All sexual orientations are accepted,we only discriminate against pedophiles.

1. You are required to have sex or masturbate at least once a week. Orgasms are a gift from god and they should be cherished just like our 5 senses.

 

I don't think he said "Christian". I think he actually said "religious". There's a difference.

And how is a Christian who hates homosexuality any more "intolerant" than a Christian who hates murder, or theft?

 

True, he did only say religious, but I was using an analogy with a specific example.

Again, I am trying not to make my own belief statements here. I was analyizing another persons apparent beliefs about "religious people". The reason I used homosexuality as an example, is because that is one that is often touted in the media and on these forums as a way that Chrsitians are hypocrites (you get arguements like: Jesus hung out with prostitues, therefore he also would have hung out with homosexuals in todays society. Therefore when Christians "minister" to homosexuals by telling them that they are immoral they are being intolerant. I also could have said that a Christian who says that Hindu's worship the devil is an example of Christian intolerance). My point was that people use a religion or worldview as an adjective often. I bet I could find at least a few threads in the Christianity forum that have "christian intolerance" in the title...

 

Indeed, my point though was that there are plenty of things which Christians could be expected to be intolerant of as part of their religion - a murderer, or a homosexual, an adulterer or a usurer. It's then down to the Christian in question to decide whether to follow all the rules, or just the ones that they think "count".

Same with any religion that has degrees of observancy. There's no particular reason why any rule of a religion should be more or less important, just because it does or doesn't concur with broader societal mores.

 

You give me too much credit. I have ZERO tolerance for religion.

When not one person can logically define or explain God, it becomes very easy to become atheistically arrogant. It's like being the only adult trapped in a room with preschoolers.

Faith is a conviction of ignorance.
Religion is organized ignorance.
Together, faith and religion kill millions.
They have laid waste to entire countries.
They have crippled America.
They have damaged the quality of my life and every life on this planet.

 

How have they crippled America? America was founded by Europe's religious rejects, it's basically always been like that. It's not crippled unless there's something wrong with it.

You're making a pretty trite argument, relaxxx. It amazes me that it actually offends anyone.

 

A Christian is to hate what is bad, not hate those who have done bad things. There is a difference.

A Christian who doesn't follow the "rules" really isn't a Christian is he? He might call himself a Christian but he is no longer a footstep follower of the Christ.

 

Well maybe, but then, there seems to be far more argument over whether homosexuality is bad than over whether murder i bad.

Well, that's debateable. I guess some would argue that not everything in the Bible needs to be taken as read, since none of it is the firsthand word of Christ, and some bits seem to be wholly out of character for him.

I personally have no idea. I wouldn't choose a religion to follow that couldn't sum up its ethos in a sentence. One that still has room for schism and pontification at the end of a 900-page book is clearly out of the question.

 

It's good to see your atheism has made you so tolerant.

I’m sure many people have logically both defined and explained God to you. It sounds like you just don’t want to hear it.

There is no man so deaf as a man who won’t listen.

And the USSR set such a fine example of what being atheist can do for the world.

 

Maybe so among those who don’t read the Bible but among readers of the Bible, they are both bad acts.

Yes, it is debatable and the debate rages on but for those who believe the Bible to be the word of God, there isn’t much debate on it.

One sentence? How about: All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must likewise do to them.

And if you allow me two: You must love your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’

As for schism and pontification, that has more to do with thinking “that not everything in the Bible needs to be taken as read, since none of it is the firsthand word of Christ, and some bits seem to be wholly out of character for him” than what the Bible actually says

 

I've yet to here a decent explanation yet, but please be my guest! I'm dying to hear it from you or anyone.