Girls, is your current Husband/boyfriend your best ever lover. And.......

Some of you are seriously unrealistic, though. Sex is extremely important to many people, myself included, but still is not the single most important thing. A lot of you are coming off completely ridiculous.

 

if you're referring to what i said, i certainly don't think that is the case. obviously, a lot of people are currently with their best lovers, unless all good male lovers died off or joined the priesthood or something.

i just think a lot of people who aren't with their best lovers lie about it anyway. enough to make the results of such a poll very hard to trust.

 

First of all never ask a question you don't want the answer to. Second of all ..never lie.

 

This is sweet and all but honestly you come off as being WAY more jaded than people you are immaturely 'repulsed' by who are happy in open relationships. No offence but it's crystal clear that you're a beta male. Severely. At least you found happiness though. Everyone deserves to be happy. No need to be prickish about your 'perfect life, perfect wife', though.

 

No, I don't mind Rachel85. Ask away.

 

That is great that you and your man have got a good thing going on! My lady is also very bi and we enjoy bringing others into play time as well. The thing is you say that your man is totally okay with you being with another man as well, but not attracted to men at all and the idea of being so intimate even indirectly with a man turns him off so even though you would like to try it you guys won't. That doesn't make any sense to me at all. No offense, but if you guys were with another straight man for a mmf that man is not going to be there to be intimate with your man. That man is going to be there for you. I am sure your man is just fine with you being with other people as long as they are woman which seems to be the norm in the lifestyle. Why wouldn't he be? He gets to be with two ladies that way. We see so many people in this lifestyle like this and don't really get it. For us if it is alright for one of us to fuck someone else then what goes around comes around. Maybe suggest another couple with a bi woman and straight man. Then he will have someone to distract him from worrying about being to intimate with another man.

 

Meh, I see where you're coming from. He has always gotten off on other men getting off to me. This was one big reason he didn't have a problem with me doing cam work and making money from it eventually. I've personally spoken to a lot of men that feel the same way, and plenty more like you that don't really understand it. I'm not greedy at all though. Totally okay not pushing the issue with all he does for me, in the bedroom and anywhere else.

I've always thought, since his last girlfriend wasn't this way at all and I was, according to him, a completely new territory he didn't know he'd wanted to trek, that the first ~8 months of our relationship being long-distance with him only having spent a grand total of sixteen days with me over two visits had something to do with it. Maybe? I don't really question it, just extremely happy that I didn't end up with yet another man who claimed to be okay with my lifestyle, then flipping shit on me when I wanted to get serious with it. Does that make any sense? Haha.

 

Well what really matters is you are both happy and it is working for you! It just still seems to us that there is a lot of double standards in the lifestyle. I would say that 9 out of 10 ads we see are couples looking for extra woman. Makes us think their are a lot of insecure guys out there and woman are much more suited to the lifestyle. We also find it ammusing how many of the women think there guy is so giving to let another girl join them. Like they are doing them a favour. Any woman that is interested in having a threeway does not need a man in their life to make it happen. Single bi woman are by far the most wanted people out there.

 

We definitely are. Lemme get real sappy and shit for a second and just say that prior to him, due to my past and my last ex specifically, I felt very undeserving. Very 'unclean' because of the things I like.

I agree with your view that women seem much better suited to these things. I've always heard it said that the female sexuality is naturally much more fluid than a man's.
I don't consider my boyfriend 'giving' because he is open to a threesome (though compared to my exes he is definitely much more secure with himself regarding this). Did you mean saying 'doing them a favour' to mean the woman feels like she is doing a favour for the man or the man doing a favour for the woman? I really hate how many women, especially ones new to actual intimacy with another girl, feel like they are doing something so great and empowering for their men just because they're willing to have a mff threesome. Especially by letting the man pick the girl, like they feel that this is obviously what every man wants whether they admit it or not and that this man should feel so lucky to have them. I don't really understand that. It seems very...catty?

Just out of curiosity if you don't mind sharing, what do you mean when you say ads? This particular lifestyle is still quite new to me. Our biggest problem is just finding a girl; I am really picky when it comes to women so he's always said I should be the one that 'chooses' who to bring in. Is that strange to you?

Honestly I'm very glad you replied to me. I don't know anyone that shares these attractions apart from us. Our housemate (we live with another couple) is apparently really interested in a sexual experience either with a girl or in a mff threesome, but her boyfriend is so immaturely and painfully insecure that he flips shit if she doesn't IMMEDIATELY harshly shun any male that seems to be flirting with her (he really believes that she shouldn't find herself flattered by the attention because she has him; she is so gorgeous and fit, honestly, there's just no way he is going to keep that from happening to her unless he completely Rapunzel's her..).

 

I have no problem talking to you more about this subject, but at this point we are derailing from the original thread and going to piss people off! Better to start a new thread or talk through messages.

 

O.K Jacob, here goes..........

1. How far into your relationship were you when you both realised that you weren't able to fully satisfy your girl?

2. How did it become apparent? Did she tell you?

3. Would you say that you have a loving relationship? How often to you have sex, and do you both enjoy it?

4. Why is it that you can't satisfy your girl? What does she want, that you can't give her?

5. Who's idea was it for her to take a lover? If it was hers, did you agree straight away?

6. Did she already know her lover? Did you know him. Do you know him now, and do you get on?

7. How often do they have sex? Where and when do they do it?

8. Does it turn you on knowing that your girl is fucking someone else. If so, would it still turn you on if he wasn't better at meeting her needs than you are? What makes him better?

9. Have you ever watched them having sex?

10. I noticed that you used the word 'Bull' to describe your girls lover? Do you, or your girl consider yourself to be a Cuckold? Does it turn you on to be humiliated sexually?*

11. Do you see this working out long term? Is there anything that bothers you or your girl? Do you get jealous?

That's about it I think. lol Not sure if anyone else has any questions?

 

Just a FEW questions Rachel? O.k, I'll answer a few now, and then more later.

 

Double post

 

My wife told me this morning she is willing to initiate sex with me tonight - just for a change. I'm usually the one who makes the first move in initiating.
So I'm looking forward to seeing what she does to start things off.
She's not into giving oral, so I will just have to wait & see?

 

Gee, thanks for the update on your sad little life. What exactly does this have to do with the topic?

 

She suggested it first, but within the context of our sex talk. When I encouraged her to open up about how she was feeling frustrated, we started talking about what turned her on, and why I could not fulfil some of those things. Once she realized that it did not bother me talking about what she liked in ex lovers, she really ran with it and made it part of our sex talk. It started with her teasing me about my cock being small, she would do this while playing with my dick. Then she would tell me that she loved my cute little dick, but wanted a bigger one to play with also. Again she would do this while blowing me or slowly milking my cock with her hand and oil. It would turn me on so much, that I would shoot real quick. She would then lean down and whisper in my ear.....

"I want a much bigger dick than yours, and one that lasts much longer!"

Instead of getting uptight about it, I would get so turned on. She could see this, so she was not afraid to push the barriers. It lead to her asking me if I wanted to see her being fucked by one of her ex's. (They had been in contact by then) She would always say this when we were having sex, and I would always say yes. It took a bit of time for her to do it though. She was scared that I did not mean it. One night, after making love we were cuddling and kissing, and she asked me if I really wouldn't mind if she got together with her ex......I said no, and we discussed it properly. She was concerned that I would go with other girls, which she said she could not stand the thought of. I reassured her that I would not, and that I did not want too! She met up with him soon after.

Yes she did know him. He was an ex boyfriend of hers. After we had been together a few months he contacted her on Facebook out of the blue. She didn't tell me at first, but after she had opened up to me about how she was feeling sexually, she started to talk about him, and how good he had been at giving her exactly what she needed. Yes, I do know him now, and we get on well. I don't think you could allow another man into your home to fuck the girl you love, if you did not like him!

 

They get together whenever they want too! She only works two evenings a week, and he works nights. He tends to come to our place at about 11 or 12 during the day Monday to Friday. They spend a few hours together before she has to pick the boy up from school. He doesn't come around every day, but most he does. I can always tell if he has, she is more content and happy when I get home. If he does not come during the day,*and its one of his nights off, he will come around after the boy is in bed. Weekends are just for us, he does not see her then.

We have a spare bedroom next to the basement lounge. They use that when they fuck, its also where they keep their BDSM stuff.

Yes it does turn me on, and no it would not, if he was not the stud that he is!

What makes him better? Well I'll copy and paste something from a previous post. I hope Aliceadams does not mind.

"The complete package. Looks, build, huge dick, an ability not to cum till he wants to, an electric touch, great with his hands, mouth, tongue and an ability to make you cum over and over again till your weak at the knees. A guy with no limits on what he will do to get you off."

He is an incredible lover for my girl. He makes her multi-orgasmic with his dick. He can do this because of his size and staying power. To watch them rutting is really something. They are perfect together. I have never made her orgasm with my dick!

 

Yes I do get to watch sometimes. The first time I saw them together was the sexiest and biggest turn-on I have ever had. The conflicting feelings and emotions that I felt were not something I can even try to explain!

To see the girl you love being fucked that way in front of you. To see the look of pleasure on her face, to see him make her lose herself because of the orgasms he is giving her. To watch her have FIVE orgasms through him penetrating her hard and fast, was really something. He can fuck her to a point where she reaches a plateau, and she has one orgasm after another. That first time after her fifth orgasm, he spun her round, rimmed her ass, lubed it up and gave her anal. He was teasing her clit at the same time, and she came twice more before he shot his load in her ass. He lasts so long! He is very dominant with her. Also, she can ride his cock for as long as she likes and he just does not cum. When they had finally finished, she told him to go. She was still naked in bed and exhausted. We kissed, held and cuddled for the longest time. We both feel an incredible amount of love pass between us when we do this. I cannot begin to express how I feel when I watch them................

Well, my girl does have another man for sex, and I am not permitted to go with anyone but her, so I guess you could describe me a a cuckold, but it's not a word any of us have used.

Am I turned on by being humiliated? I think that's a hard one to answer. I don't think I feel any real humiliation! When I watch them, just after they start, my girl will sometimes stop, grab me, lay me on the bed and pull my shorts down to expose my erect cock. She will make me cum very quickly while he watches, and after I'm done, he will fuck her for the longest time. Does that humiliate me? Not really, but it does turn me on! It really turns her on also. She loves having me watch them. Sometimes she will put her hand out for me to hold, just before she cums!

I do see us together longterm, her, the boy and I are a family, although I am very much 'a day at a time' type of person. The only thing I would not like is her getting pregnant with his child. She is OCD about her birth control though, so that is not going to happen.

She is the one that worries. Sometimes she will say that she is going to give him up, because she is scared that it will break us up at some point. I let her know that it is up to her. I'll support what she wants to do, I reassure her that it is o.k with me. To see her so happy while he fucks her, and to know how contented she is at the moment, I could not take that away from her!

She also worries that he will want more from her. She has already had to tell him that she does not want to be affectionate with him, that she does not want him cuddling, kissing or holding her. She has told me that she will not lead him on just so she can be satisfied by him. She has told him that she loves me, and is not interested in being in a relationship with him like they had before. The minute she thinks that is what he wants, she will finish what they have!

No I am not jealous, I like her being with him, it turns both her, and me on. Even if it did not, I would not try to stop her from seeing him. She wants, needs and deserves what he is able to give her. She is such a good girl!

 

you see! one cannot separate physical and emotional intimacy. he wants more than she wants to give and that is stressing your gf. Why people want to make things complicated is beyond me. To try and have a sex only relationship or 'friends with benefits' is doomed to fail because ultimately one of the participants will want more than sex or find someone else.

I got flamed for suggesting how nice it would be if people stayed virgins until marriage but situations like yours would never exist in that case. In India many marriages are arranged and every Indian couple I have ever known is very happy withy their spouse. Why? Because they learned to love each other. Love means so much more than having a crush on someone. Real love is the result of years of devotion and sacrifice. I have been married 15 years. There was a period, early in our marriage when my wife was so busy with child rearing, working and going to school that she rarely had the the energy for sex. She also gained alot of weight and stopped paying attention to her appearance, wearing lots of pajamas. It made me angry and frustrated but I never cheated on her. (When I got too horny I would jerk off to porn). There were times when I seriously questioned why I was with her and ultimately it always came down to the kids. So I kept loving my wife as a duty, surrendered my wants for the sake of the family.

Today, I look back upon that period as a trial. Today we have great sex several times a week and I am more in love with her than when we first were dating. We are a family and all four of us are happiest when we are all at home. There is no feeling better than looking over and seeing my wife reading, my daughter doing her art projects and hearing my son play on the xbox upstairs while I sit in my Lazyboy, beer in hand, watching a ballgame. No woman on earth could tempt me away from the life I have. Why would I risk everything for a bigger set of tits?

Sorry, your gf sacrifices nothing. She has the devoting loving boyfriend and the ex-bf fuck pal. Because she gets it all she cannot give it all to you. I know you think you are just trying to make her happy but you are actually robbing you, her and the bull of true happiness. Check back here in 5 years and let us know how your arrangement is working out.

 

Never discussed it but my wife knows one of my ex's and knows what a sexual freak she was so I assume she thinks the ex was better.

But better is so relative anyway. When in a committed loving relationship who gives a better blowjob is hardly important anyway. She tries hard to please me and I try hard to please her.