Getting totally pissed off with the UK now !

I think that governments are really loosing the plot.
If you have read my #30 to Vlad, take a closer look. It points out many factors that seem to have put governments into denial.

Surely Boris is living proof that with the correct treatment their has only been a 2.7% increase in mortality, which is falling. I wonder whether he has any idea on that figure.

At the moment, it is simply the blind leading the blind, with millions of the stupid following them like lemmings.

 

Yep agreed

 

Last week, I heard a well spoken and so called expert on the radio, talking as if poor old Covid was pointing an AK47 through his lounge window. He had even promoted covid to the status of a deadly disease.
It was hard not to laugh.

 

Yeah . Some people take it tool lightly but some too seriously .Its always the worst cases that are spot lighted on the news. Don't get me wrong my Brother was seriously ill but that's down to the NHS failing to find a heart murmur when the RAF Doctor detected one . Since the RAF medical he has had 2 NHS medicals and they didn't find it . Covid did .However there are a further 9 members of our family that have had the virus with either no symptoms are a mild illness.

I think at end of the day we are just trying to dodge a bullet .Lockdowns only delay the inevitable . Perhaps a vaccine could be an answer but it would have to be a rushed one without knowing the side affects .

I think for starters they need to get that antibody test rolled out nationwide as we have no idea of the numbers already having the virus. Out of our family of 10 members only 2 would have been registered in having it .

 

What is often over looked and is now just bubbling to the surface is the negative affect of peoples mental health all these lockdowns and social isolation is having. ITV have just relaunched their "Lets Get Talking " campaign as help groups for metal health are getting swamped . I have even been on antidepressants myself until recently but for me it was an accumulation of bad happenings with the lockdowns being the straw that broke the camels back .

Again its something the government just brushes over even though it has acknowledged that there is a problem .

 

Their is a problem here since the testing kits imported from China have a 30% error and cannot be used.
The only reliable test involves a blood sample. It takes days to get the result and is highly expensive, taking a high amount of lab hours. We also do not as yet have sufficient laboratories to cope.

Here in London, we are getting leaflets through the door for a test based on sending a swab and £100. At best it is unreliable, but it may be a complete scam.
Once we get scammers involved, god only knows what will happen.

 

You have a good point.
Christina (our police officer daughter) has already seen a few consequences, but away from this affluent part of London, their are cases of it being like WW3

 

This may interest you. It could be the golden goose for public places.
Back in the 1940's ozone was used in cinemas and theaters when colds were doing the rounds. Unfortunately, early units had little control and stupid staff did a lot of damage to the buildings, just like rusting cars at the seaside.
Their is considerable evidence that people who move to a seaside location after retirement, make the golden century, but it depends on the direction of winds off the ocean.
It would be interesting to see whether geographical location has had any affect on covid spread in some of these locations.
Improving Infection Control - Ozone Clean

 

Manchester: 15/10/20
Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham and Deputy Mayors Richard Leese and Bev Hughes press conference as negotiations continue over placing the region into Tier 3 lockdown

 

Manchester - and the North:

 

Well done Andy Burnham .You have restored my faith in what you try to achieve. I am relieved that you haven't sold us out to the tyranny of this scum bag government .Whatyou state is what I also beleive.It's just a pity that Liverpool didn't have a leader with the same views .I just hope you guys there can come out of this as quick
You were put into it.

 

I can tell Matt Hancock is rattled when he starts trying to play the party politics card. A cheap response bearing in mind our council is Tory lead and supported the mayor. It's nothing to do with party politics ,it's all to do about saving jobs ,lives and livelihoods .Andy Burnham was right to challenge the rationale of these tier policies .He even got the Government's Advisors to admit these policies will not work and closing pubs will not have an effect. I think the Mayor now is beginning to beleive what the likes of us have been saying for sometime now that road the Government has chosen isn't going to work .The mayor pleaded with the Government some time ago to get Test and Trace done at a local level.This would get the job done better as it could be tailored to local needs and more efficient use of resources,instead of paying vast amounts of money to centrally placed advisors who cant get the job done.

The contempt of the Government shown by the Gtr Manchester Leaders was fully justified and I hope other leaders of other areas are taking note.

 

Haven't I been saying this, with my constant criticisms of this scumbag 'nasty party' government for the past ten years !!!

 

Yes you have

 

FINALLY! Someone who thinks the same as me, I've been saying this all along, it worries me quite frankly that the so-called 'experts' don,t seem to understand how a proper quarantine should work, we will never get this under control unless we handle it properly

 

This Government for some reason must hate the Hospitality sector as it appear to be hell bent on getting them closed down .The Mayor said as much yesterday and there is not justification in doing so.

So I just want to compare as regards Covid safety my local supermarket Morrisons and my local pub The Spinning Mule in Bolton which is part of the wetherspoon chain.

So let's bring it on Morrisons V Wetherspoons

Sanitisers My local supermarket has a station at the entrance where someone is there to greet you to make sure face coverings are worn .There is also one as you just go into the store proper .A further sanitiser can be found at the rear of the store
My local pub has an automatic sanitiser station at the entrance and again there is someone to greet you and to make sure that there is a suitable table free.There are also further automatic sanitisers every 3 yards or so. I can pass as many as 4 just going to the Gents .So sanitisers alone the pub has edged it

Test and Trace .Compulsory for the pub either scanned or paper fill in of your details. .None existent in the Supermarket .The pub is the clear winner .

Covid safety of staff The staff in the supermarket in the main wear coverings Some but not all wear them at the till.The perspex screen is suppose to protect the customer .I have doubts as some sneezing droplets would just go over or around it .Some staff don't wear face coverings and have been seen walking about .I think it depends on their role.For example security sometimes don't wear them .

In the pub all staff wear face coverings without exception.So again the pub wins .

Socialising In a supermarket people are milling about in the store and as we are social animals we will stop and natter with someone that we know.It's human nature .In a pub now because of the strict antisocial rules the Government has enforced including table service only it's virtually impossible to socialise other than your partner. All other forms of socialising including flirting is done by sign language, body language and eye contact.

So again the pub wins .

I have to conclude that my local pub is more Covid safe than my local supermarket .Both outlets have invested in Covid safety to bring them upto the Government's requirements.So IMHO it's the negative public perception ,not helped with the media and this pathetic Government that pubs are breeding grounds for Covid .I beg to differ .

 

It looks like Lancashire have sold their Hospitality industry down the river .This will heap lots of pressure on Manchester to comply. Man chester s Covid rates have gone down today Boris has lied by stating that they had risen .All the other boroughs gave gone up but at a slower rate Source Manchester Evening News .

 

Oh the manipulation of figures.
As a resident of Greater Manchester; an area with a history of resolve, I can only say what I have seen,see and think what will 'Bee;

London will not be able to impliment it's will on the city, and surrounding area.

 

If Boris rail roads us I can see plenty of unrest in Manchester .A lot of businesses support what Andy Burnham or Saint Andy has said in defiance of this corupt Government

 

Sorry to sound so stupid, but how do you eat and drink in the pub with your masks on.?
Or is drinking now banned in pubs too.

PS, I have not been in a pub for more than 40 years. When the children were born, we had a sort of rota where had dinner at home and people joining us brought a bottle of wine or a pack of beers for the evening.
When the children grew up, the combination of pub prices, parking restrictions and not being to drive after more than a single glass of wine put us off. We have continued socializing at home to this day.

Just remembered. When we are in Ireland, we occasionally meet up in the local, but it is nothing like the UK. They serve tea and coffee. have a grocery and post office counter. Children are also allowed in the bar.
The really funny part is when the barman starts shouting, "That is the last time that I am serving you tonight, look at the clock, we close at midnight, it is quarter past three".