Ganja

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by all_rhodesian_reject, Feb 12, 2005.

  1. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    The whole of history is evidence against it. Firstly, what right does a foreign occupier have to take the land away from an entire race of people and subjugate them? Secondly, the products of colonialism, slavery, South African apartheid, the destruction of the Native Americans and the Australian aborigines, and the massacres in India are prime examples. You say that if things had been better managed, without racism, it would have turned out better. This is impossible, because colonialism is a racist project. It stems from an assumption that the British are superior, and that they therefore have a right to steal the land of the native peoples and force them into slavery. It simply is a racist policy. There are no two ways about it. There is no way to justify stealing another people's land that you have no right to, and treating them as second class citizens in it....
     
  2. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    logically i can't argue with you...but the standard and way of life back home is much better then in england, and thats something you cannont disagree with.
     
  3. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    It's blood land. People toiled in slavery and lost their lives to give you the quality of life you now lead, whilst they were denied the fruits of their labour. I don't deny that that lot of whites in colonial land is and has been very favourable. But I can say that it is deeply immoral that the native populations, the majority of people in these counties, should be treated the way they have been. That I can argue....
     
  4. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    i'd say "yeah, and" but then i'd be labelled as heartless...personally i'll keep the great quality of life and try and achieve peacful co existence
     
  5. Koolaid

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    You say you are not racist and I respect that, but I think you have an internal unintentional racism. Your views are very narrow and very depressing in a way...I am ashamed of our racist history, I do not feel responsible but I do feel ashamed...
     
  6. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    The whole of history is full of people migrating to different lands in search of a better life, at the time when africa was being colonised unemployment was at a record high in england and in scotland people were being forced to leave (my ancestors) Africa was the logical place to go (along with the carribean, oceana, americas) My previous point was tryint to convey the point that the african physce (sp?) is to live for the here and now and never think of storing or farming for the future. Which goes some of the way to explaining why its in such a bad way. Another thing the british did wrong by there colonys was leaving in the way that they did, they left the countries unable to govern themselves and in the case of Rhodesia in the hands of a maniac.
     
  7. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Well, there's no such place as Rhodesia, and Mugabe wasn't in power when the British left. Like I said, he's a reaction to the oppression of the black people, just as Hitler was a reaction to the way the Germans were unfairly treated after the First World War. When the mother is oppression, and the father is hatred, the child can only be a product of its upbringing....
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

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    The whole of history is also full of poor people being exploited at the hands of the wealthier ... much of the western world has been built by the hand of abuse for the 'lower' classes and vulnerable.

    It sounds like you are happy to let people suffer if it will improve your standard of living.

    Let's look at it another way ... I go out and mug an old lady, I steal £300 from her purse and run off. My standard of life improves as a result, but I have taken advantage of someone more vulnerable than myself to do it. What the (mainly) white middle and upper classes did to the poor of the developing world was nothing short of mass mugging.
     
  9. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    Your arguements both make great sense, and i can see where your coming from. And i do agree...but its just the way the world is *shrugs* inter racial breeding would solve this....
     
  10. 420toker

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    i thought this thread was about ganja, not racism?
     
  11. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    I agree, I'm mixed-race myself. I think multi-culturalism and racial and cultural harmony is the future....
     
  12. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    yeah but it'll never happen
     
  13. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Never is a long time....
     
  14. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    No never is never...
     
  15. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    My point is that multiculturalism in all societies, in an increasingly globalised world, is a fact of life. The flow of once geographically distinct populations cannot be stopped, and will continue to increase, as will inter-racial marriages. We are one race, the human race, and a future of multiculturalism, despite what the right wing reactionaries may try to do to stop it, is inevitable....
     
  16. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    yeah...i guess your right....but i'm sure the world will end before it happens
     
  17. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    The human race will be extinct before the world ends in all liklihood....
     
  18. TheFly

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    Don't confuse the issues of race and class... and the problems imposed by a capatalist system that creates division through economics...

    I don't see how becoming one mixed-race is necessarily going to erdicate the differences imposed by class structures and economic divides...

    Fly...
     
  19. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    it won't, but there won't be any racism
     
  20. TheFly

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    And you will have to eradicate religion because that is another form of division... or at the very least only have one religion to match the one colour of everybody's skin...


    Fly...
     

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