FUcking anti--depressents=lame.

Dude who posted about your friend having tremors: That's not good, and I know what it could be. Tell him to talk to his doctor.

Bitchy whiny hater who thinks pills are evil and no matter what's up you can't possibly ever need any kind of psych meds:
Wow... I'm sitting here laughing... I WISH you could live with my disorder for a day with no meds... You'd commit suicide within six hours. Don't blame it on the television, or the media, or the government... Don't fall back on the common society scapegoats... I've BEEN through it, I KNOW that my disorder is not a pack of lies. I was this way from the day I was born. I had manic episodes when I was a few months old, all the way up until now. Yes, even now I still get mild ones.

I'm happier now than I've ever been. My meds keep me stable. Be glad that certain people are medicated... If not for somebody being medicated, maybe when the voices in their head tell them to kill someone, they'll pick you. Count yourself lucky.

Now, if you'd like to keep rambling on, fine. I know you're wrong, and most of the intelligent people in this thread know that you're wrong. But, I'm not going to waste my time listening to the angry, rabid ravings on an idjit who ought to be medicated. Yeah, you heard me. Some tranquilizers to tame the fire in you would do you some good.

 

Do you know what kind of anti-depressant he is on? SSRI, MAOI or Lithium even?

My mom is a pyschologist, so I know a little bit about this stuff. Sometimes things get worse before they get better, and sometimes people don't react well to certain medications. Tell your friend he should take another visit to his shrink.

 

first off, where do you get off insulting me? I didn't insult you personally, I just said the truth. Its sad your so dead set on defending your pills, and won't even dare try stepping ourside your safety bubble into reality. You can't even imagine life and all its terror without your meds. You say you'd commit suicide... well, then I guess that's Darwinism.
You threatened my life. gee, those meds really are keeping you in check, aren't they? Thats what asylums are for. If you don't want to be in one, don't act like an insane idiot. Easy as that. its called survival. If a certain behaivor isn't in your best interests of causes you trouble, then either you'll gorw up and cut that shit out, or get eaten up.
You keep insulting me. Wow, is that a side effect? Glad I don't take meds. And I'm proud of the fire I have in me.
You know why? Because I refuse to let them medicate and subdue me. i refuse to obey, unlike you. I AM FREE. I don't need pills. I AM FREE.

 

well i'm glad you realized that they're bad for you and that you stopped. From what i can tell you're very intelligent and just fine; you don't need meds. You're a freethinker...

 

Who do you think pays the psychiatrists??? Gawd, think your yourself. If you must take something to make you feel better though, i know a lady who isn't habit forming, isn't addictive, isn't harmful and has beautiful long red hair.

 

I am on a mood stabilizer, and that is helping me a lot. I know I need to be on meds, and I fine with that. I have severed anxiety. I worry about so much stuf that people would not think twice about. It’s really awful

 

The government certainly doesn't. Insurance companies usually do. Or people personally pay them.
This argument is pointless because you really have no idea what you're talking about. You tell me to "think for myself" when you can't open your mind long enough for a new letter to get in there.
Plus you spell God as GAWD. Why am I even bothering trying to explain this to you? Haha.

 

Dude... are you just ragging on this guy or do you really believe that all people with depression should just kill themselves?

'Cos if that's your belief, then whoa... I think I might be done here :stunned:

 

Psychiatrists are paid by their clients and/or whoever funds their research, which is almost always a university or a medical school, not the government. That wasn't meant to be bitchy either by the way haha, because there is psychiatric research done by the government, it just doesn't have anything to do with the arguments/issue.

 

If anything I'm just trying to help the guy. I know what it was like when everyone tried to convince me it was in my best interests and made me better.... all it did was make me a zombie. I barely had any energy or motivation so i never acted out.

 

Psychiatry is a million dollar industry meant to drug the masses into submission.
I spelled it as Gawd because I don't like the idea of saying it and refering to the christian god. And you think that you can just judge everything about me because of the way i choose to spell a certain word. OPEN UP YOUR MIND, zombie.

 

Yeah. its called Generalized Anxiety Disorder. been there. Done that. I'm so over it. smoke a bowl and see how much you worry

its funny how I've remained fairly positive in this conversation and yet all the supposedly "free minded" pill zombies are attacking me. must be more side effects...
well, I'm proud to say i beat the system, i don't take meds, and I'm free!

 

I don't have any hook ups in town. only when my sister comes into town, I going to visit her in 3 weeks, so I will have smoke then.

 

There's no point in further arguing this. I had a couple rebuttals typed out but realized that my own tone was less than constructive- even in response to someone who characterized a response I made as "complete bullshit". I had lumped ADD/ADHD with depression because I feel (note that I'm not characterizing my opinion as fact) that both are conditions excessively dealt with via pharmaceuticals. I had failed to express a distinction and humbly express my regrets for this minor error on my part.

Clearly both side of this debate aren't likely to be swayed by even the most rationally worded, civil post, so getting in little digs in by suggesting that intelligence is lacking or whatever can only be construed as looking to turn this thread into a flame war. Against my own better judgment I'll leave this open- partially in acknowledgment that my first post in the thread didn't exactly make any good point apart from being a product of my own observation which is far from scientific. There's no way I can possibly know what other people are dealing with so I'm not at all qualified to say that a particular individual would do well to discard a drug that has been prescribed.

Likewise, there's no possible way any of you can know or appreciate what I've been through or seen. Even if any of us observe something there's little likelihood that we can appreciate the impact that living through it will have on another's frame of mind.

 

Anti-depressants are linked to violent thoughts, violent outbreaks (Columbine, Vtech, that mall shooting, etc. etc.), fertility problems, depression (heh), and numerous other problems.
Inform your friend and his parents.

DO NOT TAKE THEM
TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW NOT TO TRUST THEM

ANTI-DEPRESSANTS ARE THE NEW METH

 

man, that sucks. I've had a constant daily supply for months! hope you find a good hook up with more than just shitty schwag.

 

thank you reason. Look at today's society.
"Well you're depressed and you need to take this."
Then you get side effects, so you have to take something to fight the side effects and so on....
I'm just happy I don't have to wake up every morning and take 20 pills just to get through the day. I know that when the revolution happens, i won't have to worry when the government funded psychiatrists are overthrown... while all the little pill poppers are tripping out, I can go hang out in the woods with just myself.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fSn-odf49-Q

 

I get good weed from my sister, and I usually get a couple of big ass 50 bags. Her b/f matt always put more in it for me. And I appreciate that. Cause that last me a month or so. And that’s a lot for me. Plus my tolerance level is way down. So it doesn’t take much. Witch is always a plus. I happy with what I get. But when I go out to see my sister I will only be able to take like 3 medium bags back with me.

 

I see no threat in this post at all. Did I say I was going to do anything to anyone? No. I said You'd kill yourself if you had to live with this unmedicated for a day.

I insult you because I have literally no respect for stupidity.

I'm "free" as well. Who said I'm "obeying" anything? I obey my religious and personal beliefs, and that's it. Subdue? Wow... You have no idea what it means to be subdued... Just another bleeding heart, thinking they know everything and crying out to the world about how smart and wonderful and free from bondage they are... Sorry to burst your pleasant little insulative bubble, but the government controls every aspect of your life, whether you know it or not.

You're not free. You're just deluded.

You're proud of that fire? Good. I'm glad you're proud of being part of the ignorant masses. A good day to you, and have a nice life in your bubble.

 

bloodynailpolish, while you may be right about some things, throwing out insults and government mind control conspiracy theories dont help your case. and where do you get the idea that telling someone with a mental problems to just stop taking their meds is a good thing. if he were to stop taking the pills the condition would most likely be worse than it was originally.
my beef is not with the patients themselves, but with the pharmaceutical companies who advertise these dangerous and unhealthy as safe to an unsuspecting public and turn doctors into pushers. the truth is they are extremely dangerous drugs with life threatening side effects. they might make you better or they might make you worse, the truth is they dont really know what they do, yet they still push these drugs on sick people.

reasons not to abruptly stop taking these meds, from wiki:If an SSRI medication is suddenly discontinued, it may produce both somatic and psychological withdrawal symptoms, a phenomenon known as "SSRI discontinuation syndrome" (Tamam & Ozpoyraz, 2002). When the decision is made to stop taking antidepressants it is common practice to "wean" off of them by slowly decreasing the dose over a period of several weeks or months, although often this will reduce the severity of the discontinuation reaction, rather than prevent it. Most cases of discontinuation syndrome last between one and four weeks, though there are examples of patients (especially those who have used the drugs for longer periods of time, or at a higher dose) experiencing adverse effects such as impaired concentration, poor short-term memory, elevated anxiety and sexual dysfunction, for months or even years after discontinuation.