Fuck Isis

You don't know me (or what I do). But keep on keepin' on...

 

I think I found their uniform





and a pic of their commander

 

Right. And just how do you communicate with people who only have killing and their ideology on their simple minds?
Let's ignore what PressedRat says for a minute, and let's say ISIS threat is real (oh lolz ). So what do you suggest we do? How do we connect to them?

Violence should never be the first answer, but it is an acceptable answer when everything else fails.

 

Just as anger begets anger, violence begets violence. It's your choice.

 

Do you know anything about Islamic fundamentalism? There's nothing that disgusts them more than compromise, tolerance, and diversity.

 

And I am sure you would greet ISIS (or anyone else as violent as them) with open arms and an inviting warm smile

 

Wait. Are you Catholic? What would Mother Teresa say/do?

 

I am. I don't know, I can't speak for her.
Am I suppose to communicate with people who'd want me dead?
Catholics can fight wars too, be realistic.

 

mmmm. Not what I learned from the teachings of Mother Teresa. But you go, girl...

 

You cannot use Mother Theresa's teachings on those who don't care about any of it.
There is a time and place for everything.
What, Catholics, or better said Christians, should just turn the other cheek and hug it out?
Tell that to Coptic Christians.

Can you even imagine what the world would look like if Christians were just silent and never did anything.
I dare to say that Christianity is still the most civilized religion. Let's say you were gay. In a Christian country you'd probably just be judged socially, and you wouldn't be able to get married or adopt babies, which is still better than being hanged in an Islamic country.
So in your world where Christians are just hippies that should hug and preach, there is enough place for options like ISIS to come and overrule.
You think it'd all be just grand if we Christians only followed peaceful teachings of Mother Theresa? Sure, we should strive to follow them, but first there must be a safe environment for us to live in without extremists trying to kill every living thing.

 

Beat your swords into pruning shears and melt your machine guns into plows and let us all, including isis (so catchy) cultivate the land and enjoy the sun, each under our own tree.

 

Oh I agree. But that's not an option if one party (isis) won't do so.

 

Makes sense, and hard to argue with if one happens to be under life threatening attack. But where I think PacificDude has a point about communication and others with understanding is that we shouldn't drop the values that make our society and culture so precious in order to fight a thread as ISIS.
Besides battling them physically to protect other people in the area from the most atrocious things, we should think how we can prevent such things. We should definitely not bomb them to pieces and get it over with, we ideally should catch the leaders alive and trial them using international law and show a constructive example. Not just because we look like the better 'side' but to really get constructive and progressive where it comes to religous extremism, these kind of terrorists and indoctrination.
It can be said that a lot of ISIS fighters ARE sucked into this by a lack of openminded communication and understanding in the western world. To be clear it is not an excuse in any way, it is one of the reasons they seem to got to think it is worth to die by killing lots of innocent people. So yes, communication is really important in solving this WHOLE matter. It is probably not the solution to stop this nutcase army.

Agreed. Christians are first of all individual people too. To project some extreme actions from their religion onto them (ALWAYS turn the other cheek for example) in a complex and difficult situation and call them hypocrite for not doing so is pretty much retarded.

What you are doing is pointless. Just because 2 people in different parts of the world are both catholics doesn't mean you can call one a hypocrite because they're not doing what the other (mother Theresa) said.

 

The lack of respect seems so far to be just between your ears. Let's not stray away from the original topic because of your prejudice and urge to go on about it. Maybe make a different thread about catholics if your urge is to big?

It was an example to explain how tolerant and civlized the catholic religion has become in comparison to an abrahamic religion as islam (although i think that's mostly to thank to the progressive societies most catholics live in and are part of than just the religion on itself). It seemed clearly explained. You seem to find it inevitable to connect the fact that she mentioned gays to anti homosexual behaviour by other catholics. Again: this is not the case at all here. And it would be sad/pathetic to use it against her.

 

Yeah, I want to hear how you're going to get ISIS to negotiate, and respect other opinions.

 

Well, I guess you already have answered your own question: Blow them all to kingdom come. I don't agree. And that's just my opinion.

 

^me too

Edit: that was to KarenJ

 

Whats an isis? Some form of Ebola??

 

Yes, sort of. A disease that is taking far too many lives.