Friend Zone Sucks, how do i Escape?!?!

maybe she waits for ya to make this decisive step???
well i know how difficult it is to do this
but i think it's worth trying

 

more opinions?!!!!!!!1

 

i'd like to hear what a females view on the "decisive step" is here. do you think its coming out and telling her everything, or doing something like a kiss?

 

you boys are so indicisive nowadays!
do not make a first step and girls have to do everything themselves !!!
yeah...a kiss...holding hands...whatever...any sign of affection!

 

As it should be! lol

 

lol yup girls need to do some of the work too!! in my opinion girls should my make the first step SOMETIMES!!

 

MAJOR UPDATE!!!!
today the girl came over my house, i gave her a hug when i saw her which i dont usually do, so THATS GOOD! it started when she IMed me sayin shes bored i told her she should come check out my house, and she did!!! so she came over and we were sitttin and talkin laghfin n stuff, it was chill...she deff likes my company
then we went to get somethin to drink and we were just havin a good time, and then towards the end, we were walkin around the clubhouse in my community and she like got closer while we were walkin and touched me when she could of lol so shes tryin to get close too i guess, ALSO i always joke about her having a fat butt, and i like it...and she finds it funny, so when she was walkin she was like LOOK TODAY MY BUTT LOOKS FATTER THAN USUALL, so i like slowed down so shes infront of my and i was like omg it does! it looks dandy hahaha

WHAT DO U GUYS THINK!!!!?!! do i have a chance!? should i make a move now or wait till prom?!

 

ha!
i made this first step two days ago
and what?
all i could feel from this guy was indifference

but well ya see she definitely likes you
hold her hand or smth

 

Hold her hand. Definetly. Thats the sure sign of if you have a chance. If she holds your hand too, then, when the right moment arises, kiss her. Don't be afraid to, just do it, or you'll miss your chance.

 

Are you sure you're not attracted to guys who are indifferent? LOTS of girls do that. As soon as the guy ISN'T indifferent, he no longer appears attractive.

I guess the same goes for muddle-headed guys looking for Virgin Marry. Gender relationships in the Western world are sooooooo fucked up! Someone get me out of here!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!

 

well yes in a way....but i'm sure i would like this guy in ANY case...he's gorgeous

 

neponiatka's attitude confirms what you say, unfortunately. Sad but true. I must say though, that I don't think this is in any way innate to women. It is none other than gender roles.

But yeah, generally, the best way to appear attractive to women is either to treat them like shit, or with indifference. Therefore, neponiatka, I have little sympathy for you. I bet if the same guy initiated towards you before you took notice of him, you'd tell 'em hit the road jack.

 

try helping me please...im not complaining because u guyz kind of on topic but please try to keep it on helpin me out thanks

 

Yes. It's time men stop fucking opening doors, and paying for tabs already...for women's sake, no less! That's what's so hard for women to understand: so long as we're giving them special favors, sex inequality will persist. Women are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves, and they need sex and attention just like we do. Down with gender roles!

 

On topic? Which topic? lol. My advice is: do nothing, expect nothing...if you feel like biting her tummy, or pulling her hair, or sucking her middle-finger, do it and accept all the consequences of your action.

 

You say "its alright if you dont feel the same, and you know how important our friendship is to me...but i thought i should just be upfront and say i have feelings for you beyond friendship...i mean i really care"

Or whichever similar words fit your situation and personality

That simple. Thats what my boyfriend did. Im very glad he did. But then i could have taken it the other way if i hadnt felt the same and it wouldnt have been a big deal

 

What sad ideas Seriously id bet my LIFE i know at LEAST one man this doesnt apply to. There are men who think with their heads and hearts and not their penises
Please dont tell me otherwise, its the truth

 

guys, i can only pity you...
of course i could argue with you severely but i wont
i pity you as i pity all people with narrow-mindness who try to systemize relationships and people like "alpha male- beta male"
shit
such evil assumptions...they will do you no good
but if ya want them...it's your choice
you dont know me so you cant judge me

 

Argue severely. I like that kind of stuff much better than some impotent disagreement.

 

arguments are pointless when no results can be achieved
and i feel they wont be achieved with ya
yu are too angry and negative