Free Tibet - Boycott China Olympics!

Discussion in 'China' started by skip, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. HARRYJIN

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    And compared with 30 years ago,our human rights situation has improved a lot,that's the truth. Truth is the truth,we should not deny it and I have already seen some western media report the fake.
     
  2. Ellenz

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    China is one of the best countries treat minority nations. If some westerners can use this to against China, then they can use anything to against China: human rights, pollution, etc, etc. Anything evil Chinese government has done are all wrong. China has more than 5000 years history, except past 200 years, China has been on top of world civilization for thousands of years. It is funny to hear those western countries try to teach China how to run a country, of course they do that for their own interests, not for Chinese people's human rights or interests.

    Dalai Lama makes trouble in Tibet, USA is standing behind. Keep Chaos away, keep USA away!
     
  3. Ellenz

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    A letter from Spain on anti-cnn.com
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    Hello, I'm a Westerner too. Writing from Spain. I'm a fan of China, I love your beautiful country so much. I study Chinese and I'd like to live in China for some years. I condemn these Tibetan TERRORISTS who are killing Han people. I hate terrorists, my country has suffered terrorism too. Blame those murderers!!! Big support!! I'm so sad because 99% people in my homeland are totally brainwashed against China. If you love your country you have to do a big effort to show the truth to the whole mankind. Notice that in most Western TV channels all images about separatist violence are CENSORED, people don't know anything about this. The TV tell us that all killed demonstrators are Tibetans killed by the Chinese army. They sometimes say that mobs are doing bad things, but they pay so little attention to that fact that most people miss it. What everybody is keeping in mind is that Dalai rioters are peaceful people being oppressed by Chinese army. They also say that Tibet was invaded by Mao Zedong, as if it hadn't been a part of China ever before.They tell so many lies, you can't imagine. All the time! This is an international complot against China. In my opinion our governors are educating the masses to hate China, there isn't any other reason as far as I can imagine. They want all Westerns to believe that China is an evil empire, a giant version of North Korea. Deal with this, the West hates China. I'm sorry to say this, but that's the truth. Most people used to think that China is an amazing country with its old culture, etc. We are missing all that. Now we are being educated to think that China is only bad things. We NEVER, NEVER, NEVER watch good news from China. Only bad things, totally biased. Deal with it, and get used to this hate asap, because we can't stop it. I really think that the West is a threat for China, you better get used to that. The dream of the Western governments is seeing China totally destroyed, seeing Chinese economy fucked so that your country stay poor forever and the West can go on eating all the resources in earth. The West doesn't want to share wealth with 1300M Chinese, that's why our governments want to fuck China.

    A westerner's view of China
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQhDll880Y4
     
  4. McLeodGanja

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    Oh well at least you guys are starting to admit that China has a poor record on human rights and the environment. So there have been improvements in the past 30 years? Well let independent western monitors in to the country to analyse how true that is, and then if it turns out we are all wrong THEN you can criticise the terrible media coverage China is getting right now. So 30 years ago China had a poor record of human rights abuses. Wasn't that years after they invaded Tibet? In that respect then, what then gave the Chinese the right to criticise Tibetan standards back then?
     
  5. Ellenz

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    China didn't invade Tibet, Tibet has been part of China for hundreds of years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your brain is washed, your eyes are blind..

    China's human rights record is much better than lots of countries, including US and UK...
     
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    OK then so China invaded a part of China, and incarcerated and tortured loads of "Chinese" people. Do you want to see the video footage of Chinese police beating up the "Chinese" monks? They are the ones in the red robes FYI

    Many thanks for putting me straight on the facts, now I know better.
     
  7. Ellenz

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    China has 1.3 billion people, one monk can't stand for whole country's people.
     
  8. McLeodGanja

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    Neither can one governing body.
     
  9. HARRYJIN

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    Saying sb is tupid will not help me prove my point,but I will say you are just stupid after reading a load of shit you posted. And I will not waste my time to argue with a person who knows nothing about China, or a person who gets the information about China is all from Newspaper and then can't wait to burst all the bullshit.

    End of discussion.
     
  10. McLeodGanja

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    End of discussion between you and I. You are closed minded and resort to throwing petty insults when you fail to provide a substantial argument, much like the Chinese government. Enjoy the rest of your life in the ignorant world you live in.
     
  11. McLeodGanja

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    Chinese officials will hold talks with the Dalai Lama's representatives, state media says, in the first meeting since rioting broke out in Tibet last month.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7366500.stm

    Looks like the protests might have achieved something, China can no longer hide behind its wall of bullshit any more.
     
  12. ava

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    beg to differ china has so called "flame officials". these men are really secret service policeman. while in Australia, they had to be contantly reminded by verbally that they had no official power. australias federal policehad stop them by pulling them off Tibet protesters. these guar​
    dians of the flame also took video footage and photos of the peole in the Tibet rally

    the chinese organised 50 greyhound coaches from two other states. there were thousands of them with red flags they imtimidated the tibet people by surrounding a few and screaming :liar, liar

    i am sure people know more about china than i do. i studied chinese politics
    for a year alot of there culture is about saving face and not airing dirty laundry in public

    Why did the olympic federation give china the go ahead did they really think they were going to turn over a new leaf Tibet will never be free
     
  13. ava

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    to ellenz et al china has so much corruption going on the baby selling trade

    re education camps, sending students in the 60's and early 70's from the city as far away as possible in rural areas because of their advocacy. this lead to many
    young adults not receiving education or skills many took 20 years to return
    because they needed a permit to return. what about the jail system, without money, your fucked not recognising the one baby policy has lead to a huge gender imbalance which. this is caused by pregnant woman having abortions when they find out the babys sex what about the need to have a marriage license in order to get a baby permit lets not forget about the censorship of
    computers and other media. when tourists go on tours of the square, nothing is mentioned about the student uprising, in fact the bad moments of chinese history never happened

    i could go on and on but my rant is over
     
  14. ava

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    Harryjin, the personal attacks on this thread and forum are not tolerated this thread is a discussion
     
  15. McLeodGanja

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    Hi ava, thanks for your contribution to this thread, I was starting feel a little out numbered there LOL. I heard about that 1 baby thing and the effect it has been having on society in China, it's like a time bomb ticking away slowly.
     
  16. ava

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    i can see that this thread would rub people the wrong way and maybe they don't want to be involved
     
  17. McLeodGanja

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    TBH I can't see why it would rub anyone up, certainly not in a forum full of peace loving hippies. It is good to have a debate though. I think some of the proponents of China's empire are either brainwashed, or are actively trying to counter the negative media coverage of China. So far the arguments against the liberation of the Tibetan people from Chinese oppression have been very insubstantial.
     
  18. Ellenz

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    China has always opened a door to dialogue with the Dalai Lama. China and Dalai had been talking six times already, but didn't reach any agreement, because the Dalai Lama asked too high a price. China will continue its dialouge with him, until he dies.
     
  19. Ellenz

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    Ava, you know little about China - too much of what you mention is not official government policy, but a result of corruption and criminals etc. These people are prosecuted by the government and are put in prison when caught. Do you really believe that criminals do not exist in Australia? Should we bring up the Melbourne gangs?
     
  20. ava

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    what i mentioned in the post about china is All government corruption and govt controlled i know nothing about melbourne gangs there are gangs every where

    what was the point the govt certainly controlled the students by depositing in places thay would have a hard time this stopped them from protesting the govt officially promotes baby selling, re education camps are scatted all thru china, govt make them do hard labour and them listen to speakers and ta[es on how to be good citizens govt controlled again the one chid policy controlled by the govt permits done by the govt they control state tv and papers
    many of the chinese belive what they are told there is no mention of the students dying , tortured and being sent to re education camps some of them from beijing university managed to come to australia


    many asian countries have the save face, look good, no shame for you , famil​
    and your country is very important

    this and my other posts are my opinon and you have yours i love a good debate, but i have read this thread and its seems that people are turning this
    into a slanging match i know more than you etc or posts getting abusive
    on a personal level lets debate the subject
     

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