Free speech vs. Religious taboos.

Discussion in 'Europe' started by wolf_at_door, Feb 3, 2006.

  1. BlueFlower

    BlueFlower Member

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    But take it from someone who knows, who knows the gates of heaven can close (OH YOU CRAZY FOOLS)
     
  2. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    so you have died then and been resurrected , how exactly do you know
     
  3. Anaconda man

    Anaconda man I am not a hippy

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    Are you referring to the Muslim suicide bombers that have killed thousands of innocent people, or Bin Laden? :confused:
    You say some crazy things sometimes, I'm surprised you're 26, if you really are, you seem much younger.
     
  4. BlueFlower

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    Oh you crazy fools...
     
  5. BlueFlower

    BlueFlower Member

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    Knew a man bojangles and he danced for you
    In worn out shoes
    Silver hair ragged shirt and baggy pants
    The old soft shoe

    He jumped so high
    He jumped so high
    And he'd lightly touched down

    Mr bojangles mr bojangles mr bojangles dance

    Met him in a cell
    New orleans he was down and out
    He looked to me to be the eyes of age as he
    He spoke right out

    He talked about life
    He talked of life
    He lightly slapped his leg instead

    He said the name bojangles and he danced a lick
    Across the cell
    He grabbed his pants and took a stance
    And he jumped so high



    He clicked his heels
    And he let go a laugh
    He let go a laugh
    Shook his clothes all around

    Mr bojangles mr bojangles mr bojangles dance

    We danced for those at minstrel shows and county fairs
    Throughout the south
    We spoke in tears of fifteen years
    How his dog and him

    They travelled about
    The dog up and died
    He up and died
    After twenty years he still grieves

    They said i dance now at every chance and honky tonks
    For drinks and tips
    But most the time i spend behind these county bars
    Cause i drinks a bit

    And he shook his head now
    He shook his head
    And i heard someone ask please

    Mr bojangles mr bojangles hey mr bojangles dance
     
  6. chamook

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    ...manipulation...
     
  7. chamook

    chamook Member

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    ....just think how the muslims are educated, then think about how poor are most of them, think that they don`t have access to the culture and information, and that they belive what the leaders tell them to...

    ....then think at you, how are you educated, then think u are far away to be poor in order they are, that u have access at culture and information(at least that`s what u think) and then think how u can think by yourself...u don`t need anybody to tell you what to belive or not, don`t u?

    ...is the same thing for both (muslims and europeans)...is just the kind of manipulation the european use is more rafinated...

    ...think twice before speaking once...
     
  8. stoney69

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    ....i thought twice, and i'll speak once

    ......i enjoyed that, not the message ..but the word-wave ...and if you dont know what that meant, well nevermind :p
     
  9. BlueFlower

    BlueFlower Member

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    Call out the instigators
    Because there’s something in the air
    We’ve got to get together sooner or later
    Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
    And you know that it’s right

    We have got to get it together
    We have got to get it together now

    Lock up the streets and houses
    Because there’s something in the air
    We’ve got to get together sooner or later
    Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
    And you know that it’s right

    We have got to get it together
    We have got to get it together now


    Hand out the arms and ammo
    We’re going to blast our way through here
    We’ve got to get together sooner or later
    Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
    And you know that it’s right

    We have got to get it together
    We have got to get it together
     
  10. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    When I posted this thread, I didn't dream even in my best/worst imagination that it would cause such many replies.

    I interpret this large extent of replies as a prove, that here's an issue which really concern people.

    Thanks to all of you.

    Let me stress my point of defending free speech:

    I'm afraid of all dogmatic, rigid interpretations of any religions. We've had a bad climate of public debate about culture in my country for a long time.
    I wish that the public debate will turn "democracy vs. backward religious thinking", not "Christianity vs. Islam".

    If we apology these stupid cartoons, I'm afraid religion will override free speech, and I don't give a fuck which religion. I can assure you that conservative christians (and they are over-represented in our current right-wing government) are having a clear interest to limit free speech. So despite their making culture war, "Christianity vs. Islam", I can assure you that there are certain common political interests between danish conservative christians and backward imams & radical islamists.

    Unfortunately, the pc's don't realize this. In fact such people just make it all worse to moderate thinking muslims in my country.
    Practicing political correctness in this case is, in fact, equal to lack respect for immigrants living in my country. But, ofcourse... it's easy to have all these right opinions, living in your million-dollar-house, while all the arab immigrants are living in the suburban concrete ghetto...

    We all wish for a peaceful solution to this crisis. Believe me...

    love and understanding,
    -wolf.
     
  11. lakshen

    lakshen Forn Siðr

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    I say, never apologize because people tell you to, apologize if you before they said anything thought what you did was wrong, and if people act like the muslims do now, do not apologize, they have in their actions made themselves unworthy of an apology from us...

    When I look at them, I don't see a race, I don't see a religion... I see a bunch of puppets on the strings of, in lack of a better word, the trickster, loki, imams, manisfested to rebel against something, not knowing why or what...

    And believe ye me, I am not racist I am realistic, they have an other mentality and are controled in on a whole other level, if christians were the same I'd feel the same way towards them...

    If a religion can't handle being challanged, how can it claim to have a strong god...

    The ought to put an hence around the protests in London and throw the bunch of them home...
    I'm not as irritated by the fact that they had those 'mean' signs, I am more irritated that they didn't have the curage to show their face and stand up for their opinion, that's why they deserve nothing else than a one way trip home, IMO!
     
  12. stoney69

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    you need some growin up to do ..and readin into history b4 passin judgements

    and then you can't be sayin "im no racist, but realistic" and go on to makin racist comments
     
  13. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Please quote the EXACT sentence, in which you consider Lakshen for making racist comments. You're making a VERY serious accusation right now.

    Instead, consider what you call it when arab & iranian newspapers time after time portray jews as vampires who eat children, if not racism. Please.
     
  14. stoney69

    stoney69 Member

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    READ into and through ..and if you can't pick it up ..well, ah
     
  15. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    stoney: why don't you mean what you say and say what you mean. Vague statements are worth nothing.
     
  16. stoney69

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    lets just say, it gives me no joy to SPELL out
     
  17. IronGoth

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    Let's just say, I call bullshit on what you say, and by refusing to back up your statements, you lose.

    By the way where I come from if you refuse to show your hand it's because said hand is concealing a knife or a gun.
     
  18. stoney69

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    if you treat life a game, then yea

    ...a twisted part of our planet you live in, no wonder they messed with you good :p
     
  19. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Who's the "they" - the people who flew the planes into the World Trade Center?
     
  20. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    By the way, I think it FAR more twisted that your kind let girls BURN TO DEATH because they were trying to escape a burning building without first putting on the hijab.

    THAT is evil.
     

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