well if you believe in conspiracy "theories",there is a great deal of scuttlebutt as to debtors prisons being revived after the crash of the dollar (between now and September).. thats right kids,,our nation must pay its debts to the world somehow(find a majority american owned bank that issues credit cards,,hell find a majority american owned bank period..) and you all living off the "free money" will help to do just that.. you should do some research on the subject.. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/317467.shtml http://www.bankruptcylawnetwork.com...united-states-and-what-is-an-order-of-capias/ the army already has plans for "civilian labor camps"... http://shadowgovernment.wordpress.c...irms-concentration-camps-already-constructed/
the return of the debtor prison would not surprise me a bit fortunately my turn with this stuff was a long time ago and no one official knows where i live these days but those starting on this path might be cautious private prisons are a big look backwards and everything gets worse political de-evolution
btw the few people with a few thousand bucks of free money are not significant in the economy the military contractors with a few billion bucks of free money are but if there is jail time to be served we all know who will be guarding who
The prison thing wouldn’t surprise me they have already done that with unpaid child support in a lot of states. If you drop out and the system is not making money off of you they would rather have you in the prison system supporting their domestic police and military systems. I could see them telling the economically fallen middle class public that the reason they are unemployed and homeless is because a large percentage of poor people racked up debts and didn’t pay them. In a few months they could have a whole new population of prisoners and more jobs in the police and prison industry. When you sign up for a credit card you sign a lengthy paper waving all your legal rights so they are free to bend you over and screw you hard. They got you by the balls as soon as you sign those. The lending system is so corrupt. I had to wire someone money once so I went to this check loan place and they had the annual interest posted on the wall 565% APR @%^* crazy so you barrow $500 and in two months you owe $1000. They could financially destroy a person in a hurry.. The rich are making interest and the poor are paying interest and wheels of capitalism keep growing.
if there was a widespread concerted unified effort to get cards and not pay thousands of people, millions of dollars [millions of people, billions of dollars?] we could bring it all down there are not that many jails, and the laws still favor us [plastic revolution]
I’m game.. We can make demands and if they’re not met we won’t pay. Legalize drugs or Wall Street dies.
what this comes down to is : do you want to intentionally screw businesses. I'm not talking about sprawl mart and oil companies, I'm talking about a lot of the folks on here that make goods and have to keep paying higher fees to accept credit cards (or check cards/ debit cards for that matter). Or the struggling coffee house that has live music and can take plastic, because that's what it takes to stay afloat. If you have no personal honesty, that is your problem.
as an interent bookdealer i live on credit cards myself but would be happy to lose that if it meant the overturning of everything i am forced to work within a system i cannot abide as it is too cold in eastern montana to be homeless [summers too buggy] bring it on, tear it down
I make a living off of a couple of small businesses and a lot of my clients pay with plastic and I love it the money goes right in my bank account instantly (no waiting for a check in the mail). But I would risk my finical security to protest and change things that I don’t like. It would be a small price to pay to make this a better world for my kids and grandkids. Everyone says “we have to support _____ things so I can pay rent” that is the way it is designed so everyone is an economic slave and can never finically protest anything. I am willing to take finical risks to try to change things. I don’t buy the whole big company excuse of “our prices go up because bad guys cheat us” a multi billion dollar business should be able to some absorb some personal loss before they sent it directly to their customers anyway. The only way they get away with sending price increases directly to the customer is they have society economically by the balls. They will do price increases blame it on no paying customer but they will still stay in the top 100 and have great quarterly growth..? hmm smells fishy. I don’t want to destroy the government or the finical structures (anarchy in real life is scary) I just want change I want to end the War on Drugs and the War in Iraq. Which are both finically motivated just like most modern wars. The people have no power it is all in the finical institutions that we feed money to.
[upon reflection] a colorado coffeehouse with live music i can think of little more unnecessary than that i always forget how elitism is taken for granted in the u$ let me know when you come up with something useful that cannot exist without credit
looks like you are the elitist, since your books are more important in your eyes. That coffeehouse keeps a music school running, provides scholarship funds for low income students, and the cafe itself hosts open jams, open mic nights and provides a venue for traveling performers who can't quite fill the 95 seat spot upstairs. I believe that many people get in touch with the spirit beyond them through music. To me, and many of the people at the cafe, music is sacred, community bonding, and generally a damn good reason to get out of bed in the morning.
I got a credit card in the mail.. said call this number to ativate.. I called the # and they sent me a card.. I didn't have to sign anything.. I used the card to remodle my 120 yr old kitchen.. I had 0% for the first yr.. I made my charges.. got my first payment coupon for 35$.. I sent them 50$ my next payment was $88.79.. and my % rate went up to 29%.. I was furious.. I could afford the 35.. but I refussed to pay the 88$ because they were ripping me off..then they started calling me two/three times a day for payment.. I told them about my payment and APR going up and they said that I made charges on the card so my payment and % went up.. WTF.. If I didn't use the card it would have stayed at 0%.. but if I use it to soars up to the highest %.. what a bunch of bullshit.. BRING EM' DOWN I say.. How can that be 'right' how can they get away with it.. and they don't care either.. they are fucking you.. I hate a lame fuck and I like to fuck back not just lay there and take it..I don't have any 'bad' feelings about my self for not paying them.. I did the right thing.. they did not.. they will not get any of my money.. I would rather go to jail then to pay them.. I'd rether eat dirt then pay them..If everyone stopped paying them, perhapes they would stop fucking us so hard.. esp when we fuck them back. I had every intention of paying them.. untill they tried to screw me.. you only get one chance to screw me.. if you screw me nicly I may let you screw me all day.. but if your a lame fuck then you'll have to go screw urself bc my legs are shut tight.. and don't be eyeing me ass either.. I'm packin' a 45.
Uhm... i'm assuming this is the same in cananda!? And if it is I have known this for quite some time but i don't have the guts to do so... :S:S:S ... it would be nice cause I want to go for the coup de gracie really go for the thraot i need working capital to go wind and solar power for my house... do you really think i could pull it off and go "off grid" and not owe a penny back?!?!?!
Did you read the terms and conditions before activating your card, if you did and they changed what your original contract stated, I would completely agree with you. But if you you did not read or did not fully understand what the terms is where I would disagree due to the fact you entered a contract without proper information.
I didn't sign no stinking contract.. I signed nothing.. it was over the phone.. there was no contract to read...
I think if the gov is gonna bailout the 'system' they should wipe everyone's slate clean.. if the companies are getting their default $$ then why do we have to keep paying them.. I mean if they recoup their $$ then they are paid in full right?!? If the companies are bailed out how does that help us unless we get a bailout too.. Bailing out the companies that are ripping us off in the first (second and third) place is only perpetuating the rip off and making them richer and us poorer... So my question is... Why do we have to keep paying off a bill that has been paid by the gov..