Founding Fathers and Religion...

Bullshit.

 

Wow. You destroyed my argument.

 

Interesting how we've drifted from the Founder's religion to race and guns.

 

Yup.

 

Not specifically, but they didn't rule it out. They intended to set up a system and process by which such things would be worked out by future generations. But a menorah by itself could violate the Establishment Clause. There probably should be a cross, as well, and maybe a crescent and some plastic reindeer. We do light up a big Christmas tree on the White House lawn every year, and have an Easter egg hunt. The short answer is : we have a menorah because politicians wanted one ( I wonder why?) and nobody has effectively challenged it in court. If they did, the judges might say it was reasonable accommodation of a religious minority--or not. https://scholarship.law.missouri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1154&context=facpubs
I suspect the Founding Fathers would think we have more important things to worry about.

 

"I suspect the Founding Fathers would think we have more important things to worry about."[/QUOTE]



I certainly do....but it is all diversion and division, is all.....and I thought that govt and religion were supposed to be separate.They should be.

 

Here in Oklahoma, putting the Ten Commandments on public property is one of the favorite things the Republicans who control the state legislature like to do--along with trying to get creationism into the schools, place new restrictions on abortion and LGBTQs, and of course passing tax cuts--as a distraction from their destructive policies toward the environment, public education, public health and crumbling infrastructure. (We're the only state that makes its own earthquakes). But when some Satanists threatened to put up a statue of Satan on the capitol lawn, complete with a chair so that kids could sit on Satan's lap, the lawmakers backed off. The First Amendment has its uses.

 

Kind of sickening. they never practice what they preach, either.....not in any real way.

 

Many of the founding fathers were FREE MASONS. The constitution comes directly from the constitution of Free Masons.

The striking similarities between the Masonic Constitutions and the Articles of Confederation, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights display a revealing connection that has been hardly recognized or explicitly advertised (this is one of Freemasonry’s “public secrets” that has agitated fundamentalists and conspiracists alike).
The Masonic Seeding of Our Commercial Republic - Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, S.J., U.S.A.

Our Masonic Constitution


1753
Washington becomes Master Mason
Washington becomes Master Mason - Aug 04, 1753 - HISTORY.com

 

My favorite commandment is the one the evangelicals changed from THOU SHALL NOT KILL ...to THOU SHALL NOT MURDER....in order to justify their killing.

 

No, I mean the half million murders of innocent women and children and elderly civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

LOL BaldnBare thought you were on his side

 

I have no clue what you're talking about.

 

Well, I was hoping you were going to provide me a clue since you said it.

But I guess it's not up to you to clarify your points.

 

If he was a troll he would have run off a while ago. This guy's got an agenda.

 

The NFL as in football?

No wonder I had no clue what you were talking about

 

Lots of trolls have one.

 

Yeah, such as trying to get legitimate threads shut down because they're off-topic.