Forlorness Necessary, Necessarily?

Like a brain can totally figure out a brain...it doesnt make sense to me.

" If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. " Lyall Watson

 

Spirituality is pretty much ... morality without personas. It's finding true moral values in yourself, and respecting the moral values of others, and connecting with people on a level much deeper than the social norm.

Spirituality and science don't conflict, as religion and spirituality are not related other than in often occurring together.

 

the tendency for people to believe that objects are identical to their perceptions of them is a rather remarkable observation. Not that they can ever actually do so is obvious.

 

exactimundo

Psychology is a great course to learn the specifics of our completely subjective perspectives on whatever info. we receive.

"We do not see the world as it is, we see it as we are." Anais Nin

 

Good quote.

The ultimate goal of most spiritual people is to see the world as it is and try to improve it, rather than to see it as they happen to percieve it.

 

thanks Hikaru,


I concluded that it is a virtual impossibility, at the least extremely difficult, for anyone to clear their mind enough to be able to see our environment without being influenced by our own subjective thought processes.

In the Psyc class section that covered this topic, it was shown how easily peoples memories can be manipulated just by using more forceful adjectives and adverbs.
The best example of how a single event can be seen many different ways is our court cases, like the oj trial.
two sides describe the same event in total opposite ways.
He was found innocent, which many feel was the right call, I don't.

 

Hikaru

Incorrect..The ultimate goal of most people is not to suffer in this reality that they do not understand[ and not educated to] and are conditioned to believe they never can.
Occam has met many people. 90% have no idea where to start..let alone
understand. This is not arrogance. It is dispassionate observation.

If we dont start being dispassionately observant and respond accordingly.
We are fucked.

This is the RESPONSIBILLITY OF MATURE REASON.
Our childhood is over..we must make decisions.
No longer can earth sustain selfserving irresponsible acts.

Occam

 

I have a history of almost always making a choice that leads to the most pain, and then I have usually learned something I found very valuable.
My title refers to both of your statements expressing as a certainty that others motives are known by you.
Other than that I totally concur. I believe that seeking complete externalization, unconditional contentment, ridding oneself of ego, desire and all expectations, offers us the best chance for avoiding being fucked, as you so concisely phrased it.
Miracles can be achieved if no one cares who gets the credit.
I feel being an adult means making choices, and accepting responsibility if the results are bad.

 

Blackguard

WELL SAID

Occam

 

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