Forgiveness

Discussion in 'Ask The Old Hippies' started by goingtocalifornia, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    How do we test it to find out if the cure worked?
     
  2. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I definitely understand that. The prevention of future abuse is the most imporatant thing, but I still think the abusers need to suffer as much as possible. That's just my opinion though.
     
  3. stinkfoot

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    Well, let's put it this way... the "malignancy" would be the body part instrumental in the commissioning of the crime.. without the weapon it would be physically impossible to recommit... and hormone therapies designed to deaden urges for good measure.

    This is my own personal opinion though... such measures would be generally seen as inhuman and cruel.... and probably have no place in the civilized world.
     
  4. Shale

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    Yeah, someone would bring up that medieval practice of cutting off noses, ears, tongues, balls and cocks for various offences and blasphemies. Damn, such excesses would make the Constitutional writers put in all that troublesome wimpy stuff about "cruel & unusual."

    Also, I understand the desire to off some heinous sociopath. I was quite happy when Danny Rolling went to "Old Sparky" here in Florida for killing those students in Gainesville. We're pretty sure he was the creep that needed frying.

    However, I generally don't trust the legal system to get it right, which is why I actually oppose the death penalty. There are just too many "criminals" being found innocent with the new DNA technologies after most of their lives wasted in prison. It is just deduction that says we HAVE ALREADY executed innocent ppl. (And for all that lifetime of food, clothing and shelter, it is cheaper than the built-in appeals process for a death sentence)

    So, as flawed as it is, I have to support due process for even sociopaths and child molesters.

    You wouldn't want to blow away an innocent person that was mistakenly accused would you?





    OH, just saw the movie Kick Ass and couldn't help captioning this production pic of Hit Girl.
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  5. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    I've had the urge to kill my abuser but then a thought occured to me. And this may be a little selfish. But I already spent 3 years of my childhood getting fucked in the ass and I'll be damned if I'm going to spend the rest of my adult life getting fucked in the ass. Believe you me that will happen fish.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  6. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    That would be great if the malignancy was only possible with the one part.

    Do we go through each body part one at a time while the offender continues?

    As for hormone therapies, they may help control urges, but they don't affect choices. These people have demonstrated at least once that they can make a very poor choice. And once again, just how do you test it?

    I don't think you once saw me say anything about the legal system or how it classifies anything. If I had the slightest faith in the legal system, then I would have said from the beginning that they should be dealt with according to it... I didn't though. I have never once said this appplies to those on the sex offender list, or those who have been convicted even. I have been speaking about people who do abuse children. Although we may all never agree on how to identify all of them, the ones that can be identified are the ones I speak of.

    And Rev... I am sure I mentioned somewhere that I would do this if it was allowed in our societies, and I know for a fact I just mentioned that jail would do seems killing wasn't allowed.
     
  7. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    It's funny that is what Cat Stevens said about blasphemising Mohammed. He paraphrased scripture with unless it is against the law of man. You weren't the only one that suggested killing or beating. That was a blanket statement not aimed at you specifically. It was a blunt and sober assessment of a group of commentaries. As opposed to this which is a drunk and stoned attempt to organize and verbalize thoughts in a coherent manner when I can't type.
    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  8. ChronicTom

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    Well, apparently, you are more coherent drunk and stoned then some are straight.... lol
     
  9. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Thank You.
    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  10. Shale

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    I don't think you once saw me addressing anything directly at you.
     
  11. sunberry and buttons

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    ah there is too much hostility in this thread, it actually makes me feel worse and even more like shit. heres how i feel. ive seen ugly. ive seen horrible things i wouldnt wish on anyone let alone a child. the ugliness some of you in this thread show makes me feel even worse than before. enough of the ugliness. enough of the bitterness. this coming straight from the person who was raised by a pedophile. do not judge my points stinkfoot, and dont be so hostile tom, because just like you i was hurt too- im gonna X myself out of this thread now- it seems to be doing more internal harm then good
    sunberry
     
  12. ChronicTom

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    oh and sunberry, I will thank you in advance for never telling me how to feel again. The next time you do so, I will not respond in such a polite manner.
     
  13. sunberry and buttons

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    chilax bud ;) and how am i the enemy
    (sorry op i was supposed to x myself out of here)
     
  14. Monkey Boy

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    I agree. It's just not worth the risk of killing innocent people.
     
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