For those Anti-Earth people who don't believe in Global Warming....

Yes we are doing all these things, but we've been doing them for centuries. What has Bush done to cut down on industrial pollution. There were many restrictions in the 80s and 90sm (when the environment movement was big) but GW did away with many of those restrictions. Weren't you watching?

And it's not just GW, Clinton with his friends at Tyson and Walmart accomplished just as much.

 

Thinking about human extinction (and other kinds as well) is exactly the point. When we're scared, we act irrationally... and we start believing in anyone who will give us an answer.

It's the same as 'bird flu is going to mutate', or 'another major terrorist attack on the US will happen soon'... like our only hope is to find another planet a lot like Earth, put some babies into some spaceships, and hope that they will blend in with the locals on that planet.

 

Some people need to think back to childhood walks with butterflies and lots of lovely critters about...or go and breathe in some lovely car fumes to get a taste for things

Im only 19 years old and i from personal experience ALONE can see were shitting all over this planet and causing this crap to happen, at least in part, nevermind considering the REAL facts, my ability to reason, and what my heart is saying

But whatever, im sick of this. I really dont know why people who believe we should be doing whatever the hell we like regardless of anything or anyone at all BLEET SO LOUDLY about it, trying to get us to convert to mindless recklessness and apathy

ARGH!

Excuse my crankiness but this thread annoys me so much

 

I asked one of my republican friends who said global warming was bullshit ---"And if you're wrong?"Her reply:Fuck it--I won't be here anyway."--Nice.And very republican.And libertarian.

 

Any contribution we make is not good.Plenty of scientists think it's more than infinitesimal.At least the ones that aren't bought and paid for by the money-grubbers.

 

i don't buy into the hype and hysteria. i think people are being led too easily. but at the same time i'm extremely excited that people are giving a shit about where they live. so i'm not going to complain too much, but at the same time, i swear, sheeple make me a bit nuts. but so long as the herd is moving the way i want them to, that's just fine by me.

 

Before the ice age it was WAY hotter than it is now, but I don't seem to remember any lessons in school about how the dinosaurs used to drive around cars. It's natural, and it's been happening and been recorded since before the 40's. We are still heating up from the ice age.

 

Yeah, me neither. However I remember vaguely that it took like a million years for the ice age to melt, instead of like... 70 years....

 

If you seek to reduce say, water polution, its easy to grasp. You can cut back on run-off and discharges on the territory you control to reduce polution in your rivers and lakes. Regulations can be enforced on people and businesses in your own country.
A country can stop sea-dumping and recycle more.
In a big country a lot can be acomplished to clean the air.

Global pollution will require the cooperation of all nations. which is tougher to acomplish. Some of these folks give no priority to human rights, its hard to see an honest approach to reducing carbon emissions.

Its hard enough to get an address to more apparent problems like refugees and war victims.
Look at the dificulites to constrain nuclear weapons proliferation.

 

No shit, Sherlock. Just because the ice is melted doesn't mean all the effects of it are gone.

 

Let me get this straight--I'm not led by anybody .I'm a skeptical fucker and I don't swallow anything whole -hog.There are always if's and's or but's.Just want to lay that shit out right now.

 

No, it doesn't. This is only a consequence of the greed of a very few people. If we get rid of this, all that remains is a will to live in harmony with the Earth. You can blame politicians, but you can't blame all those people who love Nature.

I'm curious, please post a link of where you heard that.

 

I am concerned by the term "Anti-Earth". If you disagree as to all the causes of global warming, that does not make you anti-earth. This is the same tactic used by those that support the war. War protesters are called Anti-American. Pro-Choice advocates are called Anti-Life. We can disagree on some of the science without being anti-earth. Although I do not agree that humans are the sole cause of global warming, I do believe we can do better in our treatment of our planet.

 

WELL SAID!

 

This arguement is pointless. Fossil fuels are going to be gone sson anyway, so it's not like we have a choice in changing to a non
oil-dependent society.

 

I'd strongly agree with your assesment. Our country has become far too polarized in the last 6 years. It seems that a lot of folks have taken the "with us or against us" stance on so many issues (notably the war). While I strongly disagree with your stance on global warming, this certainly wouldn't lead me to think you are "anti-Earth" and shame on anyone that allows themselves to be caught up in such black and white thinking.

cj

 

Who says?

 

you are soooo right sociologist. People like you should rule the world. Anyone who doesnt agree with you has got to be a complete idiot. Anti-earth people are seriously retarded little emo punks who need to go to hell. Environmentalism is a growing thing and they are going to have to face it sooner or later. For reading I suggest Ishmael by Daniel Quinn.

 

There are two kinds of people. People who can accept the truth (which is global warming is real and caused by us), and people who cant (a.k.a., those in mental institutions or those who should be sent to one).

 

Population control is as important,maybe more so,than than the rest of it.Of course ,dragging a multi-billion(trillion?) dollar church organization into this century is probably impossible.Not when more babies mean future bucks.