following heart or embracing mind??

bro,

i gotta comment here. i'm in the same boat as you, i'm just further down the river, so to speak.

I've always lived a double life. For the past 3 years I've wanted out of college, desperately. Instead, I calmed my urges for freedom, telling myself that "college is at least better than work." And that's true. After a full years worth of internship in one of the largest corporations on the planet, I realized I'm NOT going to be able to take a job in industry when I graduate in June. And so now, here I sit, ready to drop out of society completely. Except, I have a ton of loans, so that makes it hard.

I guess my point is, if your urges are as strong as mine were, you may not be able to quell them. Being a prof would be pretty cool though, especially if it is in a subject you enjoy so much. Unfortunately I picked a subject I've come to hate with a passion.

Something else to consider: Being a prof can be a very time consuming job. Lots of teaching, lots of publishing. It should only be done if you REALLY enjoy the subject. If you enjoy the subject enough to think about it every day for the rest of your life, it may be for you. If you truly NEED more freedom than that, it may not be for you.

Final note: If your parents are footing the bill, it makes it easier to stay in school. Of course, they may like you going to a commune even less AFTER they've paid 50 grand for school.

 

lol...

"same boat as you, just further down the river" wtf? must be a big boat

 

Yeah cuz I'm in it too...I hope it doesn't get weighed down...

 

that was absolutely absolutley great advise, truly. =) i can type another 10 paragraphs on how great that was, but i'll end this one short with a thank you so much man. do you know of any search engines that list any co-op houses?

 

=) nothing is like hearing someone else's experience, a world of connections are made, so much stronger then advise. even far before college, i knew i coudln't join any industry, and teaching was truly the only perfession i see as being free, 100% subjectively (to myself)... i loved it initially, and this summer i started finding alot of bad points to it, but just now in college i did find a subject i'm becoming very interested in =) english, teach my students Ways of Seeing(john berger), Ishmael(daniel quinn). i've lately been thinking about reaching for the stars too, about goals, and starting thinking about introducing a new subject (it actually probably exsists, so i'd just be spread the good word =P), that teaches ways of seeing, in good ol' john berger's name. in college you find this in so many subjects, but i want to even introduce in highschool, and maybe slight introduction in middleschools, hopefully soon every american can see a little more broader, but isn't that a dream of ever hippie =P. but, the deamon of thinking of even TEACHING (to me in my mind, is the freeiest, keep in mind) is that it's not free enough =\. of course thoughts of: my drugs use enducing such passions from this worldview is a posibilty, and i know just as much that: these thoughts ARE always in constant flux, BUT, just maybe, what i've come to subjectively understand might have some objective reality to it, but STILL subjective to myself, you follow man? basically, our thoughts and perspectives ARE always changing, they should, growth is amazing... and i know that my views are going to change, even the possibility(as much as i CANT see it now) to see society as being comfortable, 9-5'in it... but maybe, just maybe, (and i'm pretty sure actually, i say maybe because the future truly is unfathomable, especially since everything is ALWAYS in flux =P) this passion: how my ethos (definition: how you act in reflection to your world view) is never going to change. that's how i feel now, it's never going to change. and this is where the confusion is, and THAT is why i'm so thankful for your comment =) thanks so much man

 

i weigh 180 =P watch out now! got a few friends with me too =P and a nice chunk of the forums are around here somewhere

 

Thanks for the kind words. I checked around on the web and didn't find anything that would list housing co-ops in Ft. Lauderdale or Florida in general. You may just want to check the student housing office at your college or the local classifieds; I found my co-op on a bulletin board at UC Santa Barbara... Good luck in your search!

 

www.ic.org

a directory of intentional communities throughout the country.

 

im only in high skewl but i already feel like im not gonna manage in society with a 9-5 schedule.....
i feel like im losing touch. i have no motivation and no thought of what id like to make a living off of. i dont think id be happy doing anything....
i used to have straight a's and all honor classes but i just wasnt motivated enough to keep it up. all my teachers are concerned and i just cant explain to them how i feel. i just feel lost and doomed to a job ill hate. i wanna follow my heart but its not working. ur stories really showed me im not the only one out there confused with the future. at least im not alone....

 

i too always had straight a's, but i had always cherished school so much, soooo much. really thought about how blessed we truly are to learn, you know? my father really made this clear when i was younger, and he's very right. maybe you will give it a moments thought too man? but maybe school isn't motivating in your own ethos because it's not right for you, and that's understandable. there's definitely a bunch of people like you and me. if this de-motivation is inspired by dreams of whatever freedom means to you, then maybe you should try reading Ishmael, by daniel quinn, it's absolutely a greattt book, not too long at all, and very gripping... it was the book that got me into reading, showed me what active reading was, and i know i was very moved, major paradigm shifting kinda moved, back when i read it. truly pick it up. love

 

We may only live once so, go to your grave loving it all, not submitting to oppression.

 

good post i really felt what you were trying to get across as im the same way.im very young and still in highschool (grade10) and i really hate the whole school atmosphere such as all the cliques and so on and the close minded ora most of the youths around me posses.for me education is on the bottom of my list as i had previously dropped out of school for a year because i couldn't take all the bullshit incorperated in the school atmosphere and because i was constantly struggling to find my inner self when i had to be around a group of ego trippers 5 days a week.i guess what possesed me to go back into school was the constant tension i felt from my damn narrow minded parents and family members who measure your success rate by how much money you gain rather than how much love and devotion to peace you give.anyways my grades in school are pretty good and all just because now im set on getting in and out of the education field as soon as possible so i can pursue my dreams without hassle.i guess all i really want to do in my life is backback and expierience different cultures and get an array of different viewpoints on life,and also just to be happy by way of meeting some people i can truely relate to and by basicaly choosing the path of inner peace and happiness rather than financial benifits and so on.




peace be with you all

 

Yeah I was blessed to go to hippy Highschool, but overcoming the oppression is also one of the best parts. even if it means suffering through it.

 

The mind is based on perception.

The heart is based on intuition.

Perception is an acute ascertainment of an immediate situation (an analysis of the choices and consequences).

Intuition is judgement based on a "sixth sense" (what feels like the best decision)

Perception is meant for quick, precise decisions based on what is required at the moment.

Intuition is more for a long-term consequence.

I would say to go with your heart on this one.

An example which took place in my life not too long ago: I had brought my pipe and cannabis to school one day, I was to be touring with the Orchestra, but we were going to return to our school for lunch. I decided to offer a fellow classmate a toke once we arrived back at our school; which he accepted.

So, we smoked in my car (pretty trust-worthy neighborhood; no previous confrontations) and he departed. I prepared for my close friends whome I knew would be arriving shortly (we had gotten back early, they weren't off yet) and met them 5 minutes later. Then, one of my friends, who was 15 (just turned 16), asked me for my car keys. Having been with her while she drove, and also having lent out my keys to her before, I handed them to her; trusting in her ability and compitency.

Because of the traveling Orchestra agenda, however, I found myself faced with a decision: leave the paraphanelia and illicit substance in my car, or take them with me and avoid detection by a fellow classmate. Using my lightning quick perception, I automatically chose to avoid any immediate consequences; but I left feeling as though I should have taken the items in question (and wondering if I should leave my keys in her hands), because it wasn't that likely I would be caught nor did it make much sense to add something else to the possible charges my friend could be faced with if she were pulled over. But I soon thought of the tour again.

Later, when I arrived at school and met my friend to get my keys back, she didn't have them. She had been pulled over for reckless driving and various other charges, and the cop searched my car and recovered the paraphanelia and cannabis. Nobody was charged with possession (luckily), and my friend managed to get off with a $100 fine and 3 points off her upcoming license; but I got utterly fucked on this one. My insurance is up to $700 or so for 6 months (quite a bit for a 17 year old male...), my parents are keeping a rather tight watch on my activities, and I have the whole god damn thing stuck in my brain when I could have simply said no and grabbed the stuff, aleviating any possible negative consequences.

Turns out someone had called the cops (who the fuck calls the police on some teenagers smoking pot?) and that's why there was an undercover unit that happened to spot my friend as she was driving. Notice how no serious harm came from my perception, but some personal hardship did accumulate because of it.

I now go with my intuition quite a bit more... it might not seem right, but it is, more often than not.

 

yea thats what i want. i wanna travel and meet diff ppl. im only graduating high school 'cause most ppl dont consider your opinions if youre a dropout. im only a ninth grader and until this year i loved school. but then i realized how fake school is and how fake ppl are within it. i wish there was something i could do. if only everyone was open-minded then the world would be a better place.

 

Absolutely. But atleast your not close minded just set your example. And look fooward to meeting people like yourself. Especially in other countries.