^ while a salvia trip is short lived, I find it much more real and terrifying than acid. Just struck me as ironic.
i love flashbacks are you kidding me? when i'm sitting in english class with nothing to do, i stare at the ceiling or the vents and i can manipulate the visuals to my liking. it really passes the time I get so many flashbacks. Pot will do it for me, adderall does it for me, even being sober and thinking about tripping will sometimes do it. just learn to enjoy them. they are only harmful or bad if you think they are harmful or bad.
Salvia is a foul drug in my opinion, avoid at all costs. That's some advise I will try and get across. I've experimented on a few occasions in different environments.. most of which made me wish I'd bought something else with my cash instead. I very much agree with you; salvia shakes you up and doesn't let go until you think you may actually of died. The trip is more horror than anything else; although I do recall some visuals, like screens of vision - hell, it was like being planted in outer space for a couple of minutes, I remember the haunting image of a vitalite tub and a fed ex van -> a friend who helped me up as I fell out of the car I felt trapped in (and, indeed, needed to escape from) transformed into a fed ex postal delivery man - I distantly remember asking 'who are you?!' - convinced I had passed out and had just entered a semi-concious lucid state within a dream... all along feeling the sides of my mouth force themselves out; an alien laugh passing through a manic grin, which I tried helplessly to put an end to.. and the pulling. The intense sensation of the smoke I had just inhaled tugging downwards through my lungs pulling rapidly, uncomfortably - somewhat painfully in all honesty.. The general notion that this.. is.. NOT for me; that I was misplaced in a foreign world in which I was not welcome. ..and the sickest most unjustified thing is - they sell this stuff in shops. Has the World gone fucking insane?! Mind you, I highly doubt it'll remain a legal substance for much longer. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if coffee's outlawed in the years to come.. and respect towards Relayer's post. Expanded on the point I was trying to get across as well as proving to be an interesting read.
Salvia isn't something I would do routinely. For me at least, it's the most real drug experience I've tried. But then again salvia doesn't affect me like it does most people. I never got ANY visuals from salvia, just internal realizations and feelings. Salvia revealed to me what many people know, but what few understand. As I exhaled the smoke, my ego was immediately shoved into the far corners of my awareness and tied down. It was as if I had been existing in universal consciousness, but had never had a conscious acknowledgement of this. Who I thought I was, who my friends thought they were, what we thought reality was, was all rendered fake. I shouldn't say fake though, but I dont know how else to describe the feeling. I guess it isn't our reality that is fake, but rather the "knowledge" or assumption that this is all there is. That what you see in front of you is the extent of existence. And my God....how fake that assumption is.... A true understanding that the essence of my being was eternal dawned on me. I was connected with all there is. ^ and that was just the first second. I'm not going to further go into the details of my trip, as this is the LSD forum, but I just had to put my initial post in this thread out there, because I feel people dont give salvia enough respect. That's because personally, I think if salvia is approached with the right state of mind and intentions, it can teach you more than any psychedelic drug out there. That of course, is entirely subjective, but that is my experience and opinion about it.
never tried it. had a chance just assumed it was crap since you could buy it in the store. although, you have me wondering now
I don't think the light is a metaphor. It's very literal. You can see it. I saw it, then I showed it to my friend. Just how as you forget to speak English on psychedelics, and words don't register and make sense. Then further, you can forget how to hear, music just registers as tone, can stop entirely. Eventually all noise just starts coming in as "noise", you can't differentiate it. The same thing can happen with sight. If you forget how to 'see' objects, physical reality, then you do stop seeing it. And all the light that was previously coagulated and morphed around into appearing like the physical world, it sort of melts back into a center point, that looks just like one bright white light. All light starts registering as just one white light, from one point. Just how all sound can start registering as just one sound, one tone, "noise". But in that moment, you do finally understand how everything is literally interconnected and will always be perfect.
i have had voices myself. you really should have given us more info. i have stopped lsd. i did heaps of acid for a period of im not sure actually. probably 40+ trips of always good acid mostly liquid. i did 10 hits in a week n a half once. in a not long period. and stoped when i heard the disinct voice, asking me "who are you Peter"... so anyone i was dumbfucked cause i thought acid was helping me make me know who i was stronger. plus too i couldnt remember a thing, i would drive 5minit distance to pick up baby everyafternoon and wouldnt remember the way for months, and would get lost returning home. i did do 80+ pills too. all that left me umm with my wang having troubles to get up. but thats mostly ok now. about 6 months later now, and my identity is pretty strong really. i know who i am quite. flashbaks from 10-20 a day, to none at all, or very rarely. ummm i still get a bit weird on people when i drink alot, not angry, just odd very strange. i still feel effected by lsd for sure. you stop taking it, but it never goes away, the feeling
Peter man - fair do's, it's like reading something from a completely different guy, as opposed to the stuff I used to read from you (I'm talking time ago). Looking back with this state of mind (having read your post there) I can kind of understand why - although 10 hits in a week and a half - how did that work out?! Double-up every 2/3 days or something? I take it you're familiar with the acid tolerance scale. Hofmann himself claimed acid turns the user only into what they are supposed to be. If you look at it one way - there is no manual, no instruction book on how to trip; and what to do in life afterwards. Nobody taught Timothy Leary or Ram Dass the eye opening concepts they brought forth to the World.. Knowledge through experience and the realisation that your reaction to the substance and all that follows is a very personal, individual and UNIQUE thing in itself is my handle on this acid lark
it was like my birthday, and christmas and new years all in one week. i did 3 hits on christmas day, 3 hits on my birthday the 28th, umm 3 hits on new years eve, pluss 2 pills, and 1 hit i think before somwhere. after that i gave my name a car, and started talkin to it. haha yeah alot has changed. maybe it was this girlfriend i have now. since then, i guess it changed me significantly. i went from my own person, to being connected with somone. i stopped doing any sort of drugs and yeah. my life just changed around. acid is incredible, but im allways one to overdo somthing and ruin it for myself. im allergic to caffeine cause i overdid it. if i have a peice of chocolate now its enough to make me feel weird as. caffeien allergy causes psychotic reactions when one who has it consumes caffeine. very strange, but its very real. i should probably break up with the girlfriend, and start being my own person again. smoking a bit of weed, doing a bit of acid more again. im almost finshed my Justice administration Diploma, so next year im Joiining the Police Force. so yeah thats been my life long dream, and aint nothing stopping me. i probably sound like a really fucked up kid... but really im doing all right. i dont even look like the drugy type anymore realy. im pretty ordinary, pretty social, dress pretty well these days. but the acid sort of runied weed for me too i rekon. i cant smoke weed without goin super tripped out and being really lost for days... i loose touch of reality to easily... acid is still amazing tho. just differnt parts in one life you know. its just like that. people change from day to day. who knows what tomrow will bring.
theres somthing called MYSPACE here in australia , and this is the shit i wrote about me. and i think it sums up my perspective on life well. About me: this world really is an amazing place. what with all the colours and psychadelic drugs these days. i think its strange the way things happen. what is it were meant to do? nothing. were free to live our lives as we please. to have fun and experience and be happy. anyhing else is just a trip. well hey, at least i didnt turn crazy, huh man. who am i talkin too? im talking to you man, from the past, hah, hey marcus, i wrote this directly to you to read in the future, you will flashback to this moment in time when you read this at my desired time in the future, ou wont know when. im not craazy, im just happy. but seriosuly, im doin a justice administration diploma and gonna acomplish my life long 'dream'of being a copper. thats right, a memeber of the Police department. ill be the inside man. you know what they say, if you cant fight them than joion them, or some crap like that. . i dont have top 8 cause what sick son of a bitch would rank their friends. thats the link. http://www.myspace.com/0394904a theres an awsum picture that isnt loading at the moment cause it ran out of megabytes
hearing voices might be mistical or it might be psychotic dont tell people to go with things. It could lead the wrong way. People need to find their own way when it comes to psychedelics.. so im going to say that its not necessarily normal to feel psychotic during or after taking acid.. so if you do feel that way, dont necessarily go with it, just dont fear it either. be at peace with it, and it will flow to where it should go
my voice was an increibly deep questioning voice. extrmely strong, and shock me up. it was one which i needed to hear, one from deep in my subconcious that needed to be asked. i was taking acid pretty much to find out more about myself and feel more like a god. each time i took it, i changed who i was... i was such a strange kid, i was a differnt person all the time. and deffinatly that voice i hear "who are you peter", shock up the very reason i was taking acid. acid helps, but to much acid leaves you too lost. i guess everbody takes acid for differnt reasons, somone else may not experience such prfound changes in personality and persona as i did.
acid helped me change my life recently my life has gone up a notch but my concentration isnt the best i always wonder though.. if its possible to generate strong new thoughts after acid, it is probably equally possible to generate strong negative thought patterns after acid. Depending on how the person percieved and comprehended their trip and their identity