My first visit to a gay sauna was about 20 years ago. It was on a very busy main road and I walked pass the front door many times before getting the guts to enter. It was a lot to take in, all these guys looking to have sex with each other. I had only before been to the local gay beach, this was a safe place. Most of my first visits I only watched others play. On the first visit I went into the steam room, could not see anything, it was hot and sweaty. Loved bumping into other men and feeling their hot bodies and of course their cocks, as they did mine. Took a few visits before I relaxed and was happy to play with guys. How did you go on your first time?
My first time at a Gay bathhouse was in the 70's, and lost to memory. I too started cruising on a local Gay beach. I lived in San Francisco at the time. Out past the Presidio was a small rocky beach that served as an ad hoc Gay nude beach (on the days it wasn't foggy and the temperature was above 60 degrees). It was a great place for hanging out nude with other guys, people-watching, and random hook-ups; once sat in on a circle jerk with about 20 guys, each stroking the guy next to them's cock. When someone got ready to cum, the guy next to them would lean over and suck them dry. I loved being outdoors; the feel of sun and wind on my naked body, stroking and sucking cock. I also loved the feeling of being watched (and watching), whether getting someone off, slowly stroking myself, or just basking in the sun with a hard on, or with a belly glazed in cum from several donors. When the beach was too cold, there were bathhouses. Some days they were mixed, other's single-sex. There was a central lounge, with a hot tub over to one side, a sauna, and private and public rooms, with massage tables (I love massage). You had to pay extra for private rooms. I never felt the need; I preferred the communal venues. It was understood that with rooms with no doors and other public areas, you could watch, but join in only if invited. There were big communal showers, a porn movie theater (which I found redundant under the circumstances), and a blackout room; completely dark, like inside a cavern, where you were touched and touched back in darkness and in silence; isolating just the physical sensations. Some wore towels (especially on mixed-sex days), others like me simply went nude. The entire experience was designed for maximum sensuality, and everyone there was there to get off. It was incredibly erotic, and incredibly liberating on a rainy day.
How did coed saunas work? Wouldn't a steamy room full of horny guys be quite a dangerous place for a woman wearing a towel at most? Would there be some kind of bouncer? Or was the culture that respectful then?
I'm afraid I'm not responding to a porn fueled fantasy but being serious. You hear stories of women modestly dressed just walking down the street and they get assaulted, or girls on dates with boys who don't acknowledge the meaning of the word "no." In comparison, putting women in an environment with relatively anonymous men where sex is actually the point instinctively sounds like not just certain trouble. But if you say women can go to mixed sex saunas and generally get as much...or as little...action as men when it's just the guys, I'll believe you.
Evidently I've never been to a steam room or sauna where sex is the point. All of those I've been to; not a problem. Nor are the nudist clubs or resorts, or the swinger's events I've been to. Those places have rules and etiquette. Another reason I don't imagine it as a concern is it would require that no men whatsoever step up and oppose a problem. If it was frat boys on spring break, well, that would change the dynamic. I didn't mean it was your fantasy, just that source of it somewhere was. Anyone else have co-ed steam room experiences?
There was a placard with house rules at the front desk, the gist of which required patrons to be courteous and promised to expel anyone who's an asshole, but I never witnessed any misbehavior or any attempt at enforcement. Perhaps there were incognito bouncers wandering about; if there were, they were discreet.
OK, I'm sorry, I need to get some things straight (no pun intended) here. When we talk about saunas they can be segregated by sex and they can be coed, right? And the saunas can be strictly business, legit...and they can basically be an orgy, right? And there are coed saunas of both kinds, right? Not that I'd plan to go to one at this point of my life because I'm sure I'd strike out there too, so we can keep the discussion to male only saunas as it was intended in the thread lol. I've heard of a "fun" boys only sauna in my town that closed years ago. There's also one currently of the kind where the guys keep their hands to themselves. And who knows what goes on in athletic clubs' saunas? I don't know these things.
Single-sex or co-ed? Both Legit biz or a sexual speakeasy? Absolutely Co-ed of both kinds? Yes Commercial saunas generally operate under lots of regulations. (I'm speaking only of the US here. I've only been in private saunas in other countries.). And, again generally, authorities keep an eye on them and might conduct surprise inspections at any time. (At the club where I worked, we didn't have a sauna, but we had every other form of nude people cavorting about. It had three such visits during my tenure. These were usually one cop accompanying someone from the liquor control board, or the FD, or health department.) (Good God, did I ever meet a hot cop that way!) Places that are subject to inspection havemore rules and are sticklers about following them. Private saunas? They're whatever the owner says they are. Where it gets murkier and more interesting are those saunas that exist between those poles. Much less concerned about fines or forced shutdowns, there's more leeway and thus greater variation in in the commercialish saunas. Enough variation that I can only address those I've been to. One example is at a resort/intentional community sort of hybrid in the San Juan Islands. It has a sauna and hot and cold tubs outside. This place (my experiences are a few years old) caters to counter-culture, alternative, hippie types. The sauna is clothing-optional (although I've never seen a suit in there) as are the tubs. Portions of the grounds are also C-O. You never know what you'll find as you walk through the door. Sex is a distinct possibility. I've had sex in there. I've watched BJs in the soaking tubs. I've met dates and GFs/BFs there. Or you might find nothing much at all. Although they don't worry much about officialdom, they do worry about their reputation. Consensual sex is fine, any rapey sort of activity is not. For that they'll call the County Sheriff. The only way to know what might be in your neighborhood is an extensive online search or to go there and eyeball it. (Personal testimony is good, but seems unlikely here.) In any case--GO! Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Forgot this... Athletic clubs usually operate in the first category. In big cities they'll be the most careful about rules. As the communities they're in get ever smaller and more remote, the rules generally are relaxed. Again, it's hard to say because of the range of differences.
My 1st time was NOT knowing what it was! A place in Vancouver, back in the early 70s that advertised Steam Baths. Slooow night to keep my naivety in place, until... hopped in the shower and there was this fellow who offered to soap up my back...imagine that! Of course he did the old reach-around, which I had no problem with. Ended up in his "room" where I knew once I got my nut, I absolutely wouldn't be interested in any of what that had to offer. I was still 99% hetero, back in those days. So I offered to help get him off first. Little did I know he was going to fuck my ass! It was memorable only because it WAS NOT pleasurable, at least for me. But it did insure that it wasn't my last trip there. For me, at the time...gay sex shenanigans were only a great release, mainly because all I had to do, was get my cock sucked and not have to reciprocate. It was a decade later that my appetite changed.
Eventually I became a bareback, cum-slut bottom that loved having my ass stretched and drenched inside, with hot gooey semen! I miss those days... My playground of choice, was a place in Houston called, Mid-Towne Spa. I got to enjoy 5 enormously hung guys in row there, one evening. My MOST single, memorable experience I'll never forget!
I got side-tracked by a sudden availability of hairy vulva owners. The cum slut phase was just a fleeting moment when it was so easy to go to the bath house for great sex and not really have to work for it. I look back in amazement that I wasn't ever exposed to HIV/AIDS...that or I was/am immune to it! I didn't just push the envelope on that, I ran it through the shredder. I still thank me lucky stars, every day!
OMG, that is so hot! I only started my adult same-sex adventures in 1992 at 30, and by then all the bathhouses were just filled with horny men. I can barely imagine how hot it was with women there as well. But certainly I went to them for gay sex, and to date at 62 now have had sex with hundreds of guys in bathhouses, gay sex clubs, arcades, straight and gay porn theaters, back rooms & patios of gay bars and nightclubs, gay orgies, and one-on-one in each other's homes. This included also living in San Francisco for a year 1999-2000 and enjoying the very beach you're talking about, and the gay bathhouses, gay sex clubs and mixed b&d dungeon downtown.
I lived in Niagara Falls in 1993 when I made my first trip to a gay bathhouse in Toronto a couple of hours away, horny for sex with another man or men. I had already been sucking cocks in first video arcades and then straight porn theatres in both Toronto and across the river in Niagara Falls, New York. I was both nervous and excited, but especially filled with overwhelming gay desire when I walked in to that bathhouse and seeing all the guys walking around in their towels. It had a peculiar smell that I noticed right away, perhaps a mix of sex, steam, sweat, pheromones, semen, and old building smells. I just got a locker that first time (maybe it was $5 compared to $25 for a room (which were just a small cubicles with just a tiny bed and locker)). There were a couple of the guys in the locker area where I was (there were multiple locker areas), whom I shyly admired their nakedness. I took my clothes off, sporting a huge and very hard cock already. I first headed to the showers, which also had a couple of other guys in there. I'd never been more horny in my entire life than when I was taking that shower, washing myself all over, taking particular attention to soaping up my cock and asshole and glancing over at the other guys' cocks and asses. They were also checking me out, and especially my erect cock which I was quite proud of, though it wasn't the biggest thing in the world at only 7.5 inches. I dried off, wrapped the towel around my waist, and first just started walking around throughout the maze of corridors, checking out the rooms that had their doors open or partially open, with guys alone inside on their back stroking their cocks or on their ass inviting a top to fuck them, or two guys having oral or anal sex in them, which always had a crowd of guys watching from the corridor if the door was open, stroking their cocks. It was so hot and sexy. I continued exploring, opening the door to dry sauna rooms and wet steam rooms, the latter which you could barely see into. I ventured into some of them that had at least one person in, but didn't stay since I was on an exploration path. I eventually got to this room that had multiple levels of vinyl mattresses and porn playing at the front. There were guys in there, so I decided to finally park my ass and familiarize myself with the scene. Some guys were alone stroking their cocks while watching the porn, at first, but eventually I saw a guy reaching out to another guy, who allowed him to approach his cock with his hand, to stroke it. It wasn't long before his mouth descended on the stranger's cock. It was soon after that another couple of guys started cocksucking. More guys came in and hopped up on one of the levels to watch the porn as well as the scene. I eventually did the same, reaching out to the cock of a new guy that had entered and sat next to me, and we both started stroking each other's cocks, and eventually taking turns sucking each other. He eventually got tired and left, but immediately another nearby guy scooted over and immediately swallowed my cock. This was so much fun! That's all I remember from that first visit to the porn room. I eventually found myself in a dry sauna, sat down on one of the benches, with my towel wrapped around me. There were a few other guys in there as well, just sitting with their towels wrapped around them, I guess enjoying the heat. But eventually one guy gestured to the other, and they were soon taking turns sucking each other's cocks. Most of the other guys including myself undid our towels and began stroking to the sexy scene. A guy next to me reached over and I let him take my cock into his hands, and he began gently rubbing my cock and balls. I reached over and I undid his towel and played with his cock and balls as well. I remember soon we were taking turns sucking each other's cocks. At one point while I was sucking his cock, I felt a hand on my cock and noticed it was another guy that was walking by. I just continued sucking and I felt this guy going down on my cock. This was my first time ever experiencing a threesome, and it was awesome. To have the extreme pleasure of having another man's cock in my mouth and sucking him like crazy while feeling another guy's mouth and throat giving me so much pleasure at the same time, sucking my cock like crazy, was out of this world. Eventually one by one the room emptied out, and when I was by myself I left and went back to the showers. I then jumped into the huge hot tub, that also had a bunch of other guys in there. I sat down next to someone, and before long felt his hand inch towards my cock. We began stroking each other, and at one point he wrapped his leg around my leg and brought our bodies even tighter together, while we continued to stroke each other's cocks. OMG, this felt so sexy. He then leaned over and whispered into my ear, "I have a room." But I was too scared, so I declined. I went back to the showers again, and then ended up in one of the wet steam rooms, where you could barely see anything. I don't think my cock got sucked at that time, but I do remember going down onto my knees in the middle of the floor and sucking one guy, really holding his ass tight while I sucked him. I don't think I was yet skilled at deepthroating though, but managed to suck him to completion, swallowing his cum. It wasn't my first time swallowing, and I wasn't yet as crazy as I eventually came to be tasting and feeling the texture of guys' cum and enjoying it severely, but I happily let him cum in my mouth and swallowed, to give him that pleasure so many of us guys probably have always wanted but women were reluctant to do. I went back to the showers and then headed back to the porn room. I couldn't believe it, there were two guys fucking on one of the top levels of mattresses, and a ton of guys were around them and everywhere jerking off, and cum flying everywhere. OMG! This was fucking wild! At one point I was holding this guy tightly and we were rubbing our cocks together in a very tight frot. This was my first time doing frottage. It was so sexy! There was lots more of mutual stroking and cocksucking with guys and myself. But I think I was back in one of the saunas when I finally let a guy suck me to completion, shooting a massive load of cum in his mouth, and him swallowing every drop. It was one of the most satisfying orgasms of my life. Oh, somewhere in there I also made more trips looking through all the corridors of rooms, but was always too chicken to go in any of them. It was only years later when I finally enjoyed oral sex with guys in the rooms--their room or mine. Back to the showers one final time, and to my locker to get dressed, leave, and drive back to Niagara Falls with a very warm glow, going over and over all the images in my mind of that night. It was quite extraordinary. Part of me felt strange and maybe ashamed, I don't know. But that didn't stop my gay desires and fantasies a couple days later leading to many more hours of jerking off to gay porn. I returned to that bathhouse and a couple other bathhouses in Toronto countless times after that, and bathhouses, gay sex clubs, etc. etc. in so many different cities I lived or visited. I finally lost my gay virginity, as a top, in a Berlin bathhouse while visiting Germany in 2013, finally inserting my cock into another guy's asshole and fucking him, and experiencing the greatest sexual experience of my life. Lying on the bed in that bathhouse afterwards, feeling joy and contentment beyond words, I finally allowed myself to fully accept my gay side, and loving it extremely much. After that I for the most part restricted all my sexual encounters with men to in each other's homes, hooking up through gay hookup websites and apps. I just love the greater intimacy of knowing the guys I'm cocksucking, rimming and fucking. I'm just so proud of my bisexuality or homosexuality or whatever you want to call it.
I've never had the opportunity to visit, explore, and enjoy any of these kinds of places but have enjoyed private all male (5-6) pool parties at my man's home. I'm pretty sure if places discussed in this thread were in my area I would have frequented them regularly back in my hay day when my addiction for sucking cock first began. I am envious of those that have experienced places like this because I know I would have enjoyed myself but the private parties I have had experience with were equally as enjoyable, very similar but held within the confines of a private residence which was really comforting for me to open up and enjoy multiple men for an afternoon or evening.