Fires in California

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by gardener, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. hacker.pizza

    hacker.pizza Member

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    This weather stuff has been illegal in the United States since the 70's or earlier. That's not to say they don't do it anyway. I've seen plenty of illegal government activity in the past.

    They claim it has to do with global warming. They also claim that the Roswell incident was just a weather balloon. Seems like quite a bit of MIBs running around for something as simple as a weather balloon. At least the weather balloon wasn't totally obvious later though..

    A piece of trivia for you; They used to do weather modification in attempts to control hurricanes and such. I believe they put something similar to diaper material into the clouds. This was an utter failure and made matters worse than they began. I'm sure it was made illegal in the end.

    Now the fires.. They should have had a controlled burn decades ago. Unfourtunately this is what happens when you don't burn what is meant to be burnt. Some seeds need the heat to grow. Unsurprisingly this is having a negative impact on what should have been positive.

    Funny.. That's kind of the same thing isn't it? Putting out fires made matters much worse. Stopping hurricanes merely augmented them.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Well visibility and air quality in my area is getting worse daily. By seven today it was dark outside, usually it's not dark until close to ten this time of year. You can taste the ash in the air. I hope the governator get's off the stick and get's some more help for fighting these fires.

    It wasn't this bad when Mt. St. Helen's erupted, we had a week of twilight then.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    BLM does do control burns as do the ranchers, in fact one just two months earlier got of control. In fact the smoke from it had just cleared when a storm we thought was bringing us needed rain, brought us fires instead. The last two years have been bizarre as to the lack of rainfall and abnormaly fierce but short storms.

    We are realistic around here and we expect fires in late August every year, because there is a lot of wild acreage. But you had to see this storm to believe it. And we never got our spring rains.

    This wasn't like the case of the Yellowstone fires, where they've prevented all fires for years. In this part of California controlled burning has been effectively practiced for years. In 1999 one of the BLM burns got out of control and costs many homes and lost revenue. We know all about control burns. And even with that misadventure we still realize they are useful in preventing long term catastrophic damage.
     
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    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Willow Creek is north of me about 100 miles maybe. The Governator is calling out the National Guard. Who you going to call? National Guard seem to be stretched pretty far too what with foreign deployments.
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Here's a map for those of you that are interested. By the way I am right in the middle between the big clusters to the north. We are in a valley so all the smoke from the mountain fires drops down into the valley by inversion. It clears some in the early morning, but by evening visibility is down to five miles or less. Last night it was so thick even the street lights were glowing orange. Spooky. But it is holding our ambient temps down about ten degrees. That makes our day temps about 101 or 2 which is good for around here this time of year.

    http://www.oes.ca.gov/WebPage/oeswebsite.nsf/IncidentsXML?readForm
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Air is getting a little better around here now, but a strange side effect from the smoke seems to be to our native oak trees which have decided it's fall already, many are changing color, and it's way to early in the year for that.
     

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