Firefighters Let Mans Home Burn Over Unpaid $75 Fee

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7r-V1id038"]YouTube - Bob Seger - Fire Down Below

    fitting.. :D
     
  2. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    It's like I said: it's a sad world we live in. And you've just proven me right.

    PAX
     
  3. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member

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    I guess not as original as once thought. Oh well.

    I think the term still applies.
     
  4. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    I Didn't Mean For You To Crash And Burn..:(..Twas Only Intended To Be A

    Mild "Hose Down"...:D.



    Cheers Glen.
     
  5. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    It's very important to be right, isn't it?

    Not everyone feels the same way you do about things, and why should they? They are not you.
     
  6. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    No- it's not important to be right but what is important is that someone's house burnt to the ground because of someone's stupid policy. And what makes this world even sadder is when someone tries to argue the point by acting like a troll and calling someone a name.

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  7. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    the fire departments policy is wrong..they should have the option for homeowners to assume all costs and still get service

    the homeowner is wrong too as he knowingly kept his cake ($75) and wanted to eat it too (take advantage of a paid service he chose not to pay for)
     
  8. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    Let's say that this happened in a communist country instead of a capitalistic society or what if the fire department was run by the mob. Would we then think what they did was right?
    Worse yet- what if the fire got out of control and not only did one house get burned down but ten or twenty? What if a square mile of houses got burned down and with a great loss of life? There are some services that should be provided without restrictions and the cost dealt with later.


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  9. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    if the guy chose to live in a communist location he'd have to follow whatever policies they had

    if it had spread and killed people or burned other homes the guy who started the barrel fire and let it go out of control would probably be held liable for his negligence ...why should everyone else have to pay for this idiots stupidity?
     
  10. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    In the olden days, when you had to pay monthly or something for the Fire Brigade - the fire truck would arrive, see that you haven't and then leave again, letting your house burn.
     
  11. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    but now we live in the present where all the poor folk are mad at the rich folk and want everything for free ..some even feel its their right

    peace love and cheeseburgers:eggnog:
     
  12. yellowcab

    yellowcab Fresh baked

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    :beatdeadhorse5: I will ask this one more time for the people who think the fire fighters should have put out the fire. Not that any one will reply but, say the fire department put out the fire. And lets say a fire fighter got badly injured or killed, their family would be screwed as the fire fighter was NOT supposed to be there in the first place. So is it fair for a firefighter to risk their lives for someones property, when if they are hurt or killed they are on their own because the property owner did not pay their bill.
     
  13. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    I can't speak for anybody else, but the reason I didn't respond was because there was NO way that anyone fighting that fire could have been hurt unless by some chance they weren't trained properly. The only thing they would have to have done to put that fire out was to stand 30-40 ft away from it and put the firehose on it. And that's basically it.

    PAX
     
  14. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    It would be a tragedy if someone did get hurt assisting another in any situation.

    I guess it falls under anyone who is hurt who does anything under the good Samaritan act.

    Thankfully there are still many who just do and then worry about legalities after they are done helping someone.
     
  15. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    they didnt "let" anything burn....they didnt "watch as it burned"....they did their job helping the homeowner who "invested" his $75 on a service he may never have required...and they ignored the fella who "gambled" to keep his $75 and lost the draw and now is crying about it
     
  16. deleted

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    Where I work we can see a firehouse/station. ?But if we had a fire: this station couldnt respond to it,, Thats the Burroughs fire dept, and where I work is the city. Thats just the way it is..

    It would take a few minutes more, but the borough is volunteer.. The city FF's live in the station.. The response time isnt all that different though..

    the borough often uses our lots for parades when firetrucks are used.. :)
     
  17. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    In response to your question yellowcab, doesn't that really depend on the terms of the firefighter in question's health insurance?
    Maybe the firefighter's fund (?) wouldn't pay, but what about the insurance he has for himself and family. Then what about life insurance, may not get the double indeminity, but I doubt it would be void because of such an incident, .

    Again, this whole scenario strikes me as odd. Here in So. Cal, as I said, property and city business taxes fund the emergency services, so in essence every person pays for the service. Very often you see firefighters from neighboring cities responding if the city in which the fire is in services are overwhelmed. Hell when the brush fires hit each year, you get firefighters from all over the state and other states as well.
    If I phone in a fire emergency, they send the closest station that can handle it regardless of what city the fire is in. Then the cities involved sort out the $$ later. Some stations are more suited to home fires and others to industrial fires, but the priority is always the same, protect life and property.

    Not doing that is just fucking stupid beyond comprehension.
     
  18. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    Canada regularly sends people and equipment (water bombers) down south to help our neighbors
     
  19. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I know, Thank you:)

    Strange we haven't had any big fires yet this season.
    Crazy when you live someplace that actually has a "fire" season:rolleyes:
     
  20. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    you know, i'm pretty sure that poor folk have been mad at rich folk for quite some time

    otherwise we'd still be working 60 hours a week for the price of a rich man's dinner from the age of 10

    funny, perhaps we haven't been mad enough, for apart from the age we start, not nearly enough has changed . . .
     
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