Finding out were plants grow best?

I am familiar with my area, and know which plants are edible. I am not interested in playing with the ecological balance of property which I do not own. I raise a garden on my own land.

Can you guarrantee that what you plant will not displace native colonies and lead to environmental/ecological modification?

 

You yourself are more than likely not native to your area and have lead to envirionmental/ecological modification and displacement of native colonies, what are you doing about that?

 

Pardon me but can you recall me saying anything, anything at all about playing with the ecological balance of property which I do not own? Or maybe you're getting a wee bit froggy on me and jumping to conclusions.

As for raising a garden on your own land, if you really think you own land, you might want to ask some native Americans about what the US government thinks of land ownership. Can you spell eminent domain?

In any case as long as you have to pay taxes on it, you are really only leasing that property from the government anyway. Just try not paying taxes on it for a while and see who the property really belongs to.

 

sooooooooooooo,,, im confused here..

if one plants a garden the conventional/traditional way,and one plants the permaculture way, both "on their own land", how is one anymore likely than the other to spread into the wilds off your property?

as far as displacing natural plants in the area "on your land",once again,how is permaculture any different than traditional methods?
if anything i would be inclined to believe there is LESS displacement of natural plants as there is no preparing of the soil which wipes out every natural thing in the area to be planted period..

in all actuality i dont see a issue here..perhaps gardener could explain his thought process on this a bit further??

 

Thanx HHB, I thought it was a pretty simple question about plants origins, and now I'm raping the environment.

I don’t know how we even got here from there.

So yeah, I too would like gardener to explain his thought process on this a bit further.

 

If you are experiementing on your own land, and responsible for the release of non-native elements on your own property it's one thing. If you are planting things on someone else's property without being aware of their limitations or control, you are being irresponsible.

This thread isn't about perma culture it's about guerrilla gardening. And I am sorry but I don't want dumb shits planting crap on my land without my knowledge.

 

Ok I lease the land, what's your tie to it? When shit goes wrong are you responsible for the land you've planted your crap on? I am.

 

One thing I don't know what you mean by guerrilla gardening but I know what I mean and I believe spelled it out pretty clearly, if you had bothered to read it.

Next, this thread is more about Masanobu Fukuoka's Natural Farming methods than people “planting crap” on your land.

As for “the release of non-native elements”, in this thread I’ve mentioned only one plant by name and that was corn which, correct me if I’m wrong, is a native North American plant and not “non-native elements”.

Honestly, where are you coming up with all this stuff?

 

If you aren't growing crap on your own land who's land are you growing it on? Perma culture...it certainly is if it escapes cultivation and becomes a pest. Much more likely than global warming caused by exhaust. And since you don't seem to be sure what grows where, I question your motives.

 

Frankly, with agribiz planting millions of acres of genetically altered crops, I can't see why you’re getting all bunchy over me wanting to know the best place to plant corn in my back yard? And not even hybrid or genetically altered corn but plain old simple native to the US of A heirloom corn.

I mean what’s the matter with you are you off your meds?

 

gorilla gardening is covert gardening. it can be done on your property can it not?

i mean why couldnt you plant vegetables in and amongst the native plants,shrubs and trees on your property to hide them?

permaculture is based on the same principles,you should know that..

i think your jumping to big fucking conclusions and coming off as a fucktard here gardener.

 

i think that could be it..

i get where your coming from friend,i dont know what he is reading but its obviously not what i am..

 

Hey if you are serious about growing stuff in the proper location start by reading the back of seed pack and becoming familiar with your land. If that's too hard, then give it up. What don't you understand?

 

god your being a fucking douche..

 

Once again I don't know what you mean by guerrilla gardening but this what I mean; quoted from earlier in this thread:

I don’t see anything mentioned about growing any kind of “crap” anywhere.

Maybe you enjoy planting and eating “crap”, I don’t know but personally I think I’ll stick to planting and eating common veggies.

As for planting on someone else’s land, I had never even thought of it till you mentioned it, sounds like you don’t approve of it and if you don’t approve of it, I guess that's all the more reason to try it. Maybe I’ll start tonight while there’s still a lot of moonlight. Say where did you say you where leasing your land?

 

well when someone sneaks up in the middle of the night and steals all his vegetables out of his garden he will understand where your coming from ..

i dont think folks like him comprehend how bad it could (IMO WILL ) get..

if he is far enough out that that wont be a problem like we are,well good for him. however i find his attitude towards your questions rude,narrow minded and foolish.

 

Thanx HHB, you said it better than me.

Maybe, I should have just said covert gardening but guerrilla gardening sounded kind of neat to me. But then gardener might still have assumed I was sneeking on to his land and planting secret "crap" at night when he wasn't looking.

 

Go ahead plant some weed on my land. Will you harvest it or will I?

 

oh i assure you old man,if i wanted your vegetables out of your garden i would have them .

 

Well he did say to read the back of the seed packets. Which did kind of answer the question but I asked the question more in hopes of getting to know a little better the things I eat and want to grow. I was hoping someone knew of a book or something that told the history of how the different plants finally ended up on our tables. Which at the same time would help me to understand the plant and it's needs and how to hide it in plain sight.