Finding a reliable research chemical supplier

Hey Flow i'm interested in these psychonautical congress' do you know if they come around very often in the UK? would you have a website about upcoming lectures? x

 

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Have you ever tryed mixing 2ce with LSD? I tryed this once and it was a neat experience. 2ci has always been a favorite of mine, and its something I like mixing with other chemicals such as LSD or mushrooms quite a bit. I've found that combining phenethylamines and tryptamines / ergotamines seems to provide a much more intense experience than combing tryptamines or phenethylamines with each other... This is just my own personal experience.

I've been reading alot about the differences between 2ce and 2ci lately, it seems that overall more people describe 2ce as being an extremely useful drug, but yet by some odd flip of the coin more people describe negative effects associated with its use as opposed to 2ci(that is in terms of side effects, stomach discomfort, uncomfortable body load and other some what toxic seeming symptoms.) 2ci also seems to create a feeling of empathy in more users and stronger stimulation. I'm interested in hearing members of this forum's oppinions.

Surveys:
2ci:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/DisplaySummary.asp?SID=1745329&U=174532972681

2ce:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/DisplaySummary.asp?SID=1745322&U=174532247130
-MOR

P.S. I invite every one to join the following yahoo group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ResearchChem/

Formerly 'ResearchTrypn' our group has been active in its Research chemical focused discussion since late 2002 and has over 600 members. Over the past couple of years we've become more private so be aware that you will be asked to provide a reason for wanting to join the group. However, this reason doesn't have to be extremely detailed and can be as simple as 'I'm interested in the subject' it simply serves as a barrier between our discussion and spam, as well as extremely lazy people who don't contribute much to the knowledge / experience base. Our single rule- no open supplier discussion.

 

2ce blows 2ci away.
i have had many experences with both chemicals. totalling over 50 trips, and 2ce is way better than 2ci.
i lived 2ci when i did it. it was my 2nd rc to try. but after trying2ce i dont ever want to get 2ci again. just my opinions.
i can elaborate if you want to hear more.

oh and btw, i am interested in your research group. i love to get information from many sources to help me understand and grasp my trips better. let me know more about these groups . pm me please! i have alot of useful information i can share with you guys . along with many psyconautfriends.

 

I agree!

 

Ah, I'll have to wrangle some 2c-e up then. Problem is, I'm slightly broke lately. Currently a biochemistry student (unfortunately without private lab access) and don't make too much cash but I have a reasonably priced source, so I might just be able to give it a shot soon, I only buy by the gram though.

I've found that while 2c-i is great, it's hard to really... use the experience for much...

 

oddly enough, 2ci is not yet listed on the scheduled narcotics list...

this RC was widely used, purchased, and discussed on the web and was included in reports brought forth after Operation Web Tryp.

just because an RC is not yet scheduled or illegal doesnt mean that it IS NOT under scrutiny and could cause alot of unwanted attention. There are obviously ways to obtain RCs in small amounts that are sold or traded under circumstances that are super loopholes that would be too much of a hassle for drug nazis to fuck with.

 

yeah, id say that 2ci was a firework show without an ego death or intrrospection for me

 

folks,

patience is a virtue so please understand the need of those who might have been left in the void with the web tryp operation.

Those of you who want to fuck with the minds of those of us still looking show a childish attitude. So is that the general attitude of the so called "inner core"?

While the core remains, the members change. Sooner or later we're all outside. You want to be played with when you're outside looking in?

Is it the policy of a real psychonaut to advocate responsibility and then say something like when you're inside you'll be in (psycho)heaven? If you're in Keep it quiet. By explaining how good it is inside the womb you only exacerbate the pressure applied by those outside. Arrogance is the mark of the psychonut, is it not?

 

bump just because every1 asks me for sources all the time and its gets to be a huge pain some times im sorry but 5 posts and been a member for a week isnt doin it 4 me

 

yeah you're gunna have to get lucky & catch me when i'm drunk to get a source out of me.. it happened once, but it's not likely to happen again

 

i understand being responsible and selective...but shit when will i have enough posts?

 

Getting source requests from people with only a couple posts comes with the territory, unfortunately. I try to encourage them to hang and contribute to the forums. The more people actively contributing, the better

 

us "newbies" appreciate the encouragement..although i wouldn't lump myself in with the "3 posts, outright asking for sources" guys

the stickies Do help..but say i take initiative..do my own research, but before ordering ask for maybe confirming a good source? is that acceptable? i don't want to be breakin any rules

 

Oh, I wasn't referring to you porkstock41. I'm talking about when people who just sign up and have less than 10 posts send you a PM and ask for a source.

 

Once you find a good source, you can always check it at www.undrugged.org

That would be the best way for you to confirm a good source once you found one.

 

Lol I always feel the exact same way.

I would love to try anything from tihkal or pihkal, or even just explore larger doses of LSD, but I have no source. I also can't find any Psychonautical Congress websites . . . either this stuff isn't searchable through google or I'm not as good with google as I thought .

 

Alright, I'm just gonna throw this out there. I've got one reliable source so far, the same one from Canada that everybody knows and is overpriced.

Anybody willing to give me an invite to one of the private boards? I know I've contributed a lot, so I figure somebody might be nice enough to send me a PM. I don't have much to trade or anything, but I'll teach you to grow mushrooms or extract DMT or something.

 

if someone asked me to confirm a good source i would be happy to but i have literally had four or more people in the short amount of time i have been here ask for a source and have 5 or less posts.
1. we dont want these sources finding their way into the wrong hands(DEA)
2. we dont want irresponsible people finding these sources are doing something stupid and bringing attention to this community or any person who chooses to ingest these chemicals
3. any person can come in here and make an account i dont think any one of us want to see someone who is not nearly old enough to responsibly use these chemicals to have access to them

sorry for the rant i just though i should clarify what i ment with that post before
peace and love :cheers2:

 

oh i completely agree man.

i guess i was just thinking that some people seemed to make it way too hard to become involved. i mean they would say contribute to the thread, you have no posts, but i felt i was being treated the same way. and i've been here since 2004 and have a few posts at least.
BUT it's better to be too careful than not enough. and i 100% agree that giving a source to someone with less than 100 posts is kinda asking for trouble. at least put forth some effort. i hope were not just motivating the narcs to be more persistent..i'm sure they are plenty enough already
anyways...cheers:cheers2:
if you be patient, good things will come your way

 

Tanman - thanks for bumping this.

I also have been pelted with private messages lately asking for sources, not always in those words, but usually along the lines of "oh, hey, you seem to know what you're doing and i'm REALLY struggling to find a source, wanna help a brother out?"

And sometimes it's tough not to give in, sometimes I feel guilty if I don't. But then I think to myself, "fuck them, I joined here and had to learn things the hard way, I never PM'ed anyone asking for sources, so why should they have the right to?"

True, I don't have all that many posts but I have spent hours and hours and hours reading and researching and learning. THIS IS A VERY SPECIALISED FIELD, which has been kept under the radar for a long time for a very good reason - EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THEIR PART TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY STRONG AND TIGHT-KNIT. You will find suppliers eventually, and as others have said, your sources WILL increase once ou delve further and deeper into this community. Just as the vendors should be responsible about who theuy supply chemicals to, so should we be responsible about the manner in which they are used.

NOTHING IS EVER GUARANTEED. What is here today is not always what will be here tomorrow. Pleease people, try to keep this in mind at all times.

Psychedelic drugs are not toys. Nor are they a "quick high", and this has been mentioned a countless number of time by people on this forum who are well-respected for their contributions. They are a valuable, life-changing experience and we should all be grateful that we have such a wide selection of compounds to choose from. It is an exciting and groundbreaking field with endless possibilities.

All of this can be ruined horribly fast when some irresponsible idiot buys 500mg of 2C-E from a vendor and then snorts a line of it, thinking that it's just some "nose-candy".

COMMON SENSE IS THE KEY HERE. We should be proud of the fact that humans have created such amazing substances, but knowledge is power. Just because these drugs were created by humanity doesn't mean they should be shared by ALL humanity.

Just my two cents worth.

Peace.