Finding a reliable research chemical supplier

Tanman35 · Jul 21, 2008

:iagree: :cheers2:

Cyryl MIRAUDS · Aug 1, 2008

Does any body know in which countries K is still legal. With all these scammers I think it is more reliable to buy it directly and in legal a way...

ODB · Aug 2, 2008

Isn't K legal in Mexico?

salmon4me · Aug 3, 2008

You could buy it in drug stores in Mexico (Baja California), back in the early to mid nineties.

Blinky · Aug 3, 2008

You know, when I first joined this forum - I guess it was a year ago - I didn't know very much about rc's. Luckily there were a few people here who were nice to me and gave me a few hints as to where to go to look for sources and how to go about ordering. Now, most of my sources I have found on my own through tireless searching (treasure hunting) which can be very rewarding if you find a good source at the end of the trail.

So, I definitely agree with others here and wouldn't just give away sources that took me a lot of time and effort to find. I just cringe when a newbie whines that they've spent three hours searching for 2c-x on the internet and can't find anything. The answers and sources are right there to see and be found - plain as day. Searching for the source is part of the fun.

Love the process of treasure hunting or reap no rewards!

Cyryl MIRAUDS · Aug 7, 2008

Hi, i agree with that but it is a lot of money thrown down the drain until you find the right guy I guess...

dead2dacore · Aug 7, 2008

^^ it shouldnt be, because there are many ways to check your sources.. its sometimes hard to find a legit source, but it shouldnt be hard to find out if your source is just a big scam

Tanman35 · Aug 7, 2008

dead2dacore said:

^^ it shouldnt be, because there are many ways to check your sources.. its sometimes hard to find a legit source, but it shouldnt be hard to find out if your source is just a big scam
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totally agree if your not sure check undrugged or just ask a mod from these forums im sure they'd be happy 2 help

do0zer · Aug 7, 2008

Psychonauit congress where and when????

Severely stoned · Aug 8, 2008

^^^ Don't go there he's a narc or a scam. His site is clearly illegal.

Blinky · Aug 9, 2008

Yes, the prices are ridiculous! I can get a gram of 2c-i for $100 - $150 dollars. You know what though - the funny thing is that the DEA will probably let the site go on forever like legalhighs.org did as long as they are scamming people on not sending out any product. They take out the legit US sites quickly and leave the scammers to keep scamming! What a bunch of A**holes!

DroneLore · Aug 9, 2008

The Flow said:

Sorry, that I didn´t answer that earlier, as so often, I had too much work to do during the last weeks (and months)...

I define a psychonaut as a person, who does drugs to find out more about himself, how his mind/brain works and tries to take something out of these experiences in his everyday life. Sometimes, he´ll even manage to reproduce some drug effects without having taken the drug (after some training, I can already reproduce parts of the effects of 2C-B, 2C-E and Methylone, just by will. They don´t last long though, but even a few seconds can have strong effects if used wisely in your daily life. And don´t forget, that I´m still working on it...).
And of course, he shares his experiences with other psychonauts, esp. professional researchers, in order to help them drawing new conclusions on drug themes and maybe discover things, that may help everybody.
A good psychonaut doesn´t do drugs just for fun. O.K., he may sometimes take them for personal reasons (e.g. me and my wife spent a night on Methylone, after her Grandma passed away last December, but this included also some kind of therapeutic setting), but he has enough control over his situation and enough resources, that he does not need drugs to get along with his life.
Some people take drugs regularly just because they think, they wouldn´t have a godd time without them (or at least a not-so-good time). Some are also just looking for the next and maybe stronger kick. Imho, these people are no psychonauts, but only poor creatures, who have lost their faith and can´t see the beauty of life any more!
A good psychonaut will always plan his experiences, care for a good set and setting. And if he experiments with new substances or new (higher) doses of drugs he already knows, he´ll always have a sober sitter around. I´ve already done (group) experiments without a sitter, but only if every member of the group had researched it well (that means done it at least 3 times, if possible in different doses), had made good experiences with it and - most important - only with substances and at doses, under which I could (with lots of will and discipline) in case of emergency switch back to "normal mode" and handle the situation (for me, these substances are Methylone, MDMA in low doses, 2C-B, Psilocybin in low doses and THC).
He will be careful with every substance, research new substances as good as possible, start with reasonable low doses and will also always have proper antidotes at hand.

This is only a small part of my definition of a "Psychonaut", but I hope, it´ll point you in the right direction.

My best experience ever was my 2nd MDMA trip... I had been a little anxious before my 1st one (have read lots of the horror news about it, this was also at the beginning of my "career" as a psychonaut) and couldn´t relax very well. Also, I wasn´t very comfortable with my sitter. It was nice, but it wasn´t the thing I had expected. The 2nd time I knew what to expect, so I could relax a little more. My sitter was a friend from university, who wasn´t very happy about my drug experiments, but anyway agreed to be my guide. He had lots of empathy and although he had never taken MDMA before, he knew instinctively, what was best for me (maybe, because he was a marathon runner - these guys know very much about extreme serotonine rushes!).
Another great experience was my 1st 2C-B alone trip. I had experienced the substance 6 times before with a sitter on doses up to 30mg, when I tried a 10mg trip alone (but with my friend from the 2nd MDMA trip as a backup, his phone number stored in my telephone for emergencies, having a key to my appartment and calling me every 60 minutes, to check, if I was still alright). On the same night, I experienced (among other things) one of our German soccer teams winning the UEFA-Cup (the 2nd most important soccer title in Europe) - of course on TV. Under the drug, this became a night, which I´ll never forget.
And I´ve had some great 2C-B and 2C-E experiences in circuses, shows and esp. visiting fireworks displays.
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While I find your attitude to be elitist, separatist, and unnecessarily critical of those with goals and desires different from your own, you have managed to re-ignite the very thing that originally drew me to psychedelics: analyzing the experience. After having finally experienced two of the most popular and basic tryptamines, I had so much fun that I was beginning to lose sight of why I ever got into this scene in the first place.

ODB · Aug 10, 2008

psychonaut = sailor of the mind/spirit

Tanman35 · Aug 12, 2008

looks like bumping this thread may have actually worked the pm's and posts about sources seem to have slowed greatly i havent had a pm in a while haha

KrazyJuggalo · Aug 13, 2008

Tanman35 said:

looks like bumping this thread may have actually worked the pm's and posts about sources seem to have slowed greatly i havent had a pm in a while haha
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You're tellin me

Cyryl MIRAUDS · Aug 16, 2008

Neither do I

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