Feeling safe

thedope:

Well what?

As I said, I don't identify peace beyond harmony. Do you think I love in peace?

No. How do you think people become unafraid?

 

The spirit of separations greatest defense against the truth.

I think love is what you are. Are you in harmony?

No what?

The truth sets us free. Love causes fear to flee.

 

Specialness? I'm not as concerned as you are about the spirit of selfishness. Health doesn't demand exclusivity. The spirit of gravity however, that could pose a problem! lol

I think we're all love. It's not safe to think that. If you think I'm in harmony, then we may create together. :-D

No to this: "but as long as you are afraid love is forgotten and remembering is selective forgetting."

As I said, how do you think people become unafraid?

Yes, because love can always be remembered, even through fear.

 

Not the spirit of selfishness, the spirit or idea of separateness. I am notoriously selfish and as I do for you i do also for myself.

Why is it not safe to think that? I mean by are you in harmony are you free from conflicts of interest?

And I said,
The truth sets us free and love causes fear to flee.

There is no fear in love. There is a caveat to my statement, as long as,
and, there is a event horizon between forgetting and remembering. Love remains always even when you are afraid but fear makes what you are seem obscure. As far as remembering, love waits on invitation.

 

By loving everyone we have no conflict of interest, but at the same time, we give ourselves up to every imagined conflict, for not everyone believes everyone else is worthy of love. You're right though, not believing in any sustainable conflict of interest, there's no reason to fear even the most disinterested excuses for conflict, let alone madness itself.

 

This is what I call specialness or the spirit or idea of separateness.

 

feeling safe, though very much desirable, is as much an illusion as is solid matter.

it is better to take reasonable precautions and avoid forming expectations.

 

Do you believe that everyone believes everyone else worthy of love?

We want to believe it. Would we stake our lives on it? Can belief alone satisfy our best interest? Love is enough. There is nothing essentially wrong with the idea of separateness.

 

I do not. Special says, one does another doesn't. Love is all there is but that point is made to seem obscure. Specialness is essentially untrustworthy.

Separateness is awful when you conceive yourself separate from your good.

 

Not withstanding that we are safe.

 

Is such a thing possible? We can't be separated from our lives even in ending them. There is never a point to death, even in dying to escape a certain kind of life. I don't think we all have to simultaneously realize this to live as our own overflow, but we must simultaneously begin to. ;-D

What kind of a catalyst would it require?

 

It is not possible but you can imagine or perceive it to be so. The mind is powerful and the effects of our thinking are absolutely convincing.
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If you believe without doubting, you can cause a mountain to pick itself up and throw itself into the sea.

Obviously you cannot do such a thing simply by believing, but you can be utterly convinced that you had done so.

There is a point to the phenomena we call death. It is to make room for the expansion of self much as those with chitinous exteriors split their skin in order to grow. Having come upon this account I will agree that there is no disembodiment but I will say that the body we know is just a shell or picture frame of the body we obviously are.

As far as the catalyst required, critical mass takes a total of one.

 

thedope:

Do you really believe that, when it is bound to be a misconception? The self is its own expansion, the mind its own life, not apart from the body, but its own for that very reason. Death only occurs because the self comes to be what it is. It has no purpose in what we may mistake for its 'function'. The self in reaching for its joy gives all to circumstance that joy may become its sole condition. Even as an effect of this, death is needless. A true return to life only occurs within life. We are causally tied to our lives by birth alone. Evolution may make use of failure, but it doesn't necessitate it.

Why one rather than just a total, or merely a totalling? Can you expand?

 

Safety isn`t a huge value for me. I have always lived in violent places, and I have been exposed to violence many times. Yet, I`m less paranoid about it than most people who`ve never been mugged, or pointed a gun at, and who`ve never been in the middle of a shootout.

I still prefer violent places that have subways, and 24 hour stores, and people on the sidewalks, than some safe backwater with more shrub than people, where I can`t buy bread unless I get a car and drive miles over to the strip mall.

 

It is not a matter of belief, no reason was forthcoming so I reasoned it.

Another question I had asked was, is a pulse of light a body?

Light is what you are made of. The light by which all other things are perceived. If the eye be sound, the whole body will be full of light.

Light is physical and proceeds forever unless you were to contain it in all sides.

The body is a limit thrown up to make those distinctions seem meaningful.

So, not a body.

Does the body?

No, first we are conceived.

What failure?

Death only seems without purpose because you think the body alive.
The body is a communication device animated by magnanimous intent.

We share our thoughts. It takes just one thought to change a whole mind.

 

thedope:

You can reason it only so far, to the 'point' of death to be precise. Do you need to expand yourself by dying?

What do you mean by this?

It is your conviction that you think the body is a limit.

Yes a body, just not a dead one. The self wants embodiment. Its being more than its body doesn't mean it isn't one.

Yes, the birth of births, conception. :-D

The failure to sustain life by its idea.

The body is as alive as the mind. It is not a device of the mind, not merely its means of expression, but its love of it, expression itself.

I like this.

 

No way, I don't feel safe, probably NEVER have. Last year just 2 blocks from my house a girl got tortured and decapitated in a little police station called a Caseta Policiaca, well her body was found outside but her blood was inside. They put her head on her chest and put a sign on her stomach saying some shit about not informing on certain drug dealers. And then a girl got abducted off the street just on my corner. There are gang members all night long out in the street. I do NOT go out after 10pm. My house has a big tall wall all the way around it and has razor wire and an electrified fence but I'd really like a mounted and armed machine gun nest on top of my house but guns are illegal in Mexico....oh unless you are a cop (which are all Zetas) or a non-cop Zeta or Pelon (i.e. a drug dealer/extortionist) you cannot have a gun. It's bad here. Murders all the time.
Now the cops are getting more and more aggressive and are doing road blocks to extort people as they go about their daily lives. My husband gets pulled over all the time - one day 3 times just for mordidas (little bribes - literally little bites). Also I they kill people and hang them from the bridges. The warring nacros are always fighting and hacking each other up and leaving the body parts on the busiest streets. and that's just a small part of it. NO I DON'T FEEL SAFE NOT FOR A MINUTE! I stay home locked up in my house most days. but that's just me.....

 

Why don't you move?

 

I feel sad reading your post, have you ever been out of mexico? traveled...
is this the life you have always known or has it got worse over the years?

I could not live that way surely there are safer places in Mexico to live? I guess if you can deal with it and are ok with everything its fine. I would have to move on, I just would not except a life like that..

 

Stay strong Marebare.