Feeling safe

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by broony, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajuXkvuIHMQ"]Rod Taylor - In The Right Way - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZPMU4Tp66Y"]Barrington levy - captivity - YouTube
     
  2. Invisible Soul

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    Woah, off-topic city or what? lol A mod should just rename this "Reggae Music Thread", and move it to the music area. :p
     
  3. thedope

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    Never knew you to be fussy but I can learn. I make the distinction because "special" is a distorted assessment, the spirit of separateness' greatest defense against the truth. Reality is non-local, nor is it remote. All are precious yet none are special, although it is our habit, and necessary, to form special bonds because bodies have demands from each according to their kind.

    As a matter of logistical concern I cannot, embodied physically, share my time with everyone at once. We recognize particular aspects of affection we endow ourselves with. We are organized by familiarity, parents, children, spouses, and we have a tendency to compartmentalize the relative importance of these aspects. I say aspects because in fact these are not particular persons. You have a spouse but you can divorce your spouse and take another and both fulfill exactly the same role, demand the same level of affection. You can have a child, and then have another, or adopt one and they will each fulfill in total the role of being your child.

    As noble as these aspects seem, they are not initially conceptions of love as we usually think of them, but the urgings of the biological imperative of procreation. You will protect or choose some forms over other forms and this sets life against life in a competition for ascendency.

    So we have a set of disparate affections in competition for time in the light.
    We choose for ourselves both friend and foe for the sake of special relationship.

    And here is the relevance of this distortion as far as feeling safe:

    Enemies by definition are a threat and they can be downright terrifying.

    Sorry for going so far afield but there is another way to organize ourselves and that is to develop one whole relationship to all things, or rather let all our relationships become holy. In such a state you are wholly safe among the familiar.

    Each according to their kind but all expressions of love are maximal.



    Bodies endure through replication. We make to time to have it end, that is, to learn to create, to achieve, to fail. The perfect proving ground for infinite diversification within an imperturbable whole.
     
  4. thedope

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    I personally don't mind the concept of soothing music to relieve anxiety, however I can't participate in real time because of my wavering wireless connection. It takes 30 minutes to listen to a 4 minute piece.
     
  5. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    thedope:
    But by saying all bodies are subject to dissolution, you are saying they have to be. Do you think beings could replicate their bodies directly, that is, form them in all consciousness, in bliss? Couldn't the procreative 'function' become the icing on the cake so to speak? Couldn't the undreamt of, what we have thus far only allowed ourselves to dream of become our creation? The discovery that we love nothing better than living on the edge.

    If all relationships could come to be wholly relationships as you say, and fail every varying state of separation they tend towards in the fiction of a "proving-ground" within an imperturbable whole. It would mean embracing all comparison, rather than developing an overall relationship. All expressions of love maximal but not equal. Love not without condition, but condition through and through.

    We make time for eachother. We already have time for ourselves.
     
  6. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBQW2YoQetE"]Source Direct - Stonekiller - YouTube
     
  7. thedope

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    We make the attempt already en-petri, that is through bio engineering and the propagation of replacement parts. I don't think that is so close to bliss as to desperation. Aging is auto immune. The cold long for hot. The hot long for cold. We long for fresh fall breezes during the oppressive heat of dog days. The old long for their youth and thus we continue to perpetually consume ourselves. At some point it becomes a question of how much you are willing to pollute as the human population of the earth explodes.

    You ask why do we make time and I say so that it can end so that we can determine results in a continuum that in fact has none. In this in turn, we create space/matter, (wave collapses into particle).

    No degree of separation is true and we suffer from the severance of special relations constantly.

    The formula all expressions of love are maximal but not equal, does not balance. All maximal does not equal, not equal. What you withhold from anyone you withhold from yourself. You grow stronger in love as you grow in love but love does not reflect on it's strength. A smile to stranger on an elevator can have untold benefits that may affect profound swaths of relations from that point in time.


    I like this. I did point out that we come into the world to eat but our lives inform us in time that we live for and with each other
     
  8. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    The equality is to themselves, not eachother, hence expressions. No one thing is equal to another but the self-same thing that it is. Inherency. Any sameness one may ascribe to 'everything' is nothing.
     
  9. thedope

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    All exchanges of energy are equal and like calls unto like. Every instant is new and therefor incomparable. That means a past need not be present and the present need not end.

    No, that would be everything. To have all, give all to all.
     
  10. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    All exchanges of energy are equal only to themselves, not eachother, and not even in equalling what they are! :-D

    Ha! We were going to reach paradox sooner or later, or exactly when we did? :-D Everything is equal to itself, but one cannot ascribe all to all, unless one is all, which one is not, but infinite.

    The universe is infinity.

    If we weren't more than metaphysicians, I suppose we'd be wondering why. lol
     
  11. thedope

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    No degrees of reality. No degrees of love. No degree of difficulty. All expressions of love are both maximal and equal.

    It is the uneven or unstable metric of specialness that causes seeming unequal elements.

    Ha ha, ha ha ha!

    What do you lack?
     
  12. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    All degrees of reality. All of love. Difficulty no argument. All expressions of love maximal and 'equal' only in themselves.


    Paradox needn't present an argument. Everything becomes what it is.

    What does everyone lack but everyone else? It is said we're all present, all I know is that we're alive.
     
  13. thedope

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    What does reality or love, let's say of the twenty seventh degree, look like?




    Everyone else is not self. What do you lack?
     
  14. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    It would depend on your degree. Happily, it's impossible to be underqualified in loving reality. :-D

    Who are you to say everyone else is not self? Right now I'm lacking the answer you are pressing me for. Is it 'nothing'? lol
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyIyizfEik"]Midnite Seek knowledge before vengeance - YouTube
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  16. Invisible Soul

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    I said the constant posting of reggae videos was off-topic, I didn't say I had a problem with the concept of soothing music to relieve anxiety. :p

    However, to counter the balance, here's some soothing music which isn't reggae. lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBPbJyxqHV0"]Super Mario 64 Music - Dire, Dire Docks - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuGpE73NwYw"]Manic Street Preachers - Tsunami - YouTube
     
  17. thedope

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    All expressions of love are maximal they say.



    Must be someone you don't know.




    If everything is equal to itself then you lack nothing.

    To have all give all to all.

    What you have is all you have otherwise you have it not.

    For every action there is an equal and complimentary reaction, or
    the measure you give is the measure you receive.

    A life spent or given is more valuable than a life saved or withheld.
     
  18. Dejavu

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    I know you, unless you'd rather I don't. And you're sane... to a degree. ;-D
    Who are you saying isn't self?

    I am not everything. I'd feel it if I was. I'm not precious or special. Everything may be equal to itself, but to be so, it has to go on being so. And they say death is the great equalizer. lol

    Only works if we all do it together. lol

    Ease off yoda! Yes what I have, I have, but I also have my having of it. :-D

    I don't know. What about the guy who gives a warm welcome and receives the cold shoulder?

    lol What if they're the same life?!

    Your wisdom abounds. Don't hold too hard by it though. Love makes fools of us all.
    :-D
     
  19. thedope

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    What we don't have.



    Your being is everything that you are.

    Love is only known by the loving heart. To have love, you love. The love you give is yours to keep and also for others to share or not according to invitation. It always works for you.

    A greeting is a greeting. How would you measure it?

    Only the shadow knows.

    Yeah, I mostly chop wood and carry water.
     
  20. Dejavu

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    What we don't have is a who? Then who?

    Well of course it is. But to lack nothing I'd have to be everything, which I'm not. Oh, the humanity.


    This is true, but having all only works if we're all giving all to all. Of course that we're all not doing so doesn't mean we shouldn't start. Being on the ball we can get the ball rolling from more than one location. ;-D

    I wouldn't if I'm giving it. Every man may be for himself, but he needn't be.

    The shadow of a life? Give life some credit! It's begat all you've got. Who knows what weevil lurks in the tarts of sven?


    Hopefully not after enlightenment. You could do your back in.
     
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