ha ha.. yes.. ohhh Bobby Mcgee ... that's all bobby left me... I forgot what this thread was about a long time ago
Hey guys & gals, This is what myself and others are currently working on, not really a gathering with music or anything like that but a revolution, none-the-less. I don't feel that we should try to impress those who aren't truly interested in what we have to offer. I have nothing against recreation at all, but we should keep the focus clear and concise. We should not allow others to think that the event is to just listen to bands & party. I understand that this movement needs a leader, I have been spending my time lately, organizing this and getting it rolling. The hardest part will be getting it started. I don't care to be called a leader, I'm just someone who wants change/freedom and will stop at nothing, shy of death, to get it. It is about time... gumbygurl, you are not alone. I bet that makes you happy to hear that. Many of us are waking up and realizing that there is more to life than what we see here. That life does not revolve around the 'almighty dollar' but rather life revolves(or should) around peace, freedom, love and caring. shameless_heifer, we're coming up with all kinds of ideas for how we can live off of the land as a peaceful nomadic tribe that is at peace with nature and everything around us. Everyone carrying their own weight and doing their part. As for laws, live & let live. As long as someone is not hurting another(physically or otherwise), then it should be legal. No guns, period. But I won't get into this too much in this thread since I'd just be repeating myself. hehe =) Mr Mojo Risin', you are right, we do not need to take out the government and we certainly DO NOT need to spread negative energy. Purposely causing harm to others would do just this, negating any positivity we hope to bring out of this. We should start now by being kind to others. I also highly suggest that everyone begin working on balancing their chakras, the energy centers of the body. somethingwitty, that is very similar to what we are doing. We're going to 'gather' people in the areas near us that are interested. We will start meeting regularly to discuss ideas, what we've learned, to test our skills, and to enjoy each others company. Anita, you put it well. I'm going to speak from the heart, being as open and honest as possible. I believe I'm finding out what my purpose in this life is, and I believe it is in direct coordination with this movement. This is a new awakening, it is spiritual/cosmic whether or not people realize it yet. The ones that feel it, feel it deep down in the essense of their being. If you feel this, ask yourself why you feel it. You are on this planet, at this period in "time", in the family that you are, for a purpose. Your experiences have molded you into the person who you are now to prepare you for what is next. We need leaders and followers, both are equally important for coming up with ideas and executing those ideas. We are not human beings trying to be spiritual, we are spiritual beings trying to be 'human'. I'm certainly not trying to hijack this thread but if you're interested, take a look at the link to the thread "I Propose an Exodus" in my signature. I repect your views and I'd like to hear your ideas, comments and suggestions. ^_^
I really like this idea. Just a "gathering" - no fancy event involving bands, stalls, etc - just a place for all the people on these forums who want things to change to get together, make new friends and have fun, while at the same time creating a solid alliance to affect change. 18,000 members on these boards - surely there are, say, 1,000 of these members prepared to do this? But how to get people to commit? On the internet it's too easy for people to say "yeah it's a great idea" and then disappear when push comes to shove. That has happened on these forums more times than I can count. The only way you can guarantee attendance, in my opinion, is for people to PAY to go. People are hardly going to pay and then not turn up. Just as long as people have to part with their money somewhere along the line - like for transportation to the event, for example. Another way to guarantee attendance is by making the VENUE/S a good one - like something historically significant to the hippie movement?
And what of the caring people who have no money? Should they be turned away? Certainly not, this is not about money. The people close to me are making the voyage with or without others following them. We're not waiting for someone else to push a movement along so we can follow, we're doing the pushing. (sorry if I come off as aggressive, I just don't like the money idea) But you all ARE right, it is far time that we band together, exchange ideas, and finally MAKE CHANGE.
I agree - of course people who can't afford to pay should be allowed to go. This is not about making money at all. My idea is not aimed at those who will actually turn up if they say they will. It is more aimed at the people out there who would seriously consider going but who just need a little push to commit. That's the only reason I thought of bringing money into it, because let's face it, no-one wants to pay for something and then not receive it. If you let people organise their own way there you will find that some will still go, but for the majority of people it will be too hard to do so - especially the younger people, who don't always have access to cars, own driver's licences, or know groups of people they can travel safely to the event with. So if you get them to pay for a seat on a bus (for example) then a) transport has been arranged and b) no-one is going to pay to go and then not show up. Hope I made sense there.
what a beautiful, powerful thread! wonderful ideas. it's high time we all get together and clean up the mess that has been made.
I don't see anything wrong with paying, though it kind of defeats the purpose. Of course, if it came down to it, I'd say you either had to pay, or you could help during the gathering if you didn't have money. It sounds fair to me.... kind of (as fair as it can get with money). For a while I was working pretty hard on finding out how to get this thing started, then school has been raping my ass so often, that its been hard to find time. Perhaps this summer I'll see what I can do (maybe working with Kevin or a few others on the forums) to create something for the summer of 2006.
I am totally game for this even though I live in France. Luckily I'm gonna make a little cash this summer and so hopfully that'll be enough to buy a ticket to amerika. But dude, this thing needs a website!!
Okay, here are my opinions on the matter: A planning council of people who can really be dedicated to this and run a website to throw info at the general public is essential. As much as no one wants to charge for tickets, someone somehow has to pay to use the land, I'm sure, and for other costs. Maybe give General Admitance for free but offer special priveleges to those that pay. Whatever special thing is given, however, should not be something that would cause any kind of hierachy to form. Then of course are the considerations of the event itself, my two points of concern: 1) where/when: will the location chosen be suitable for a gathering of this type? Coventry was a mud pit, maybe the desert is a good place for it in that regards. Then, though, you need to provide all these people with at least water, bathrooms, food (through venders most likely), camping space, parking space, some kind of medical emergency services, cleaning up the site afterwards... 2) Publicity: If you want a lot of people to come, how will you get them to come? There needs to be a reason to travel across country. Bands are the easiest way to draw a crowd, but also a straight goal could work, such as protest the war, or to legalize, or some overall cause to be there. Then there is advertising, through a web site, obviously, then flyers, tracks, posters... who knows how, but people need to be shown whats going on, otherwise how can they know to go? As I said, to really get the ball rolling on this thing a board of planners should be set up and start scouting out locations. Find someplace suitable for a good crowd, work through the permits you'll need to aquire, make solid plans for where to set this up. Map out all the costs and find out how much you're going to have to raise to get this thing to work.
I dont really think I'm in any position to volunteer, but if theres something simple I may be able to help. I dont even know if I'd be able to get there, let alone set it up. I'll be happy to throw out my mostly inexperienced opinions though!
i forgot all about this thing as it hasn't turned up here in quite awhile.i think the whole idea is great but for something like this to attract alot of the youth today i think it needs to be known that peace is for everyone from all walks of life and that you don't have to be a hippie to want or be involved with a peaceful revolution. in order for a new revolution to take place today we need to make the peace movement universal rather than classing it into a specific group.
This is exactly what i've been trying to tell people we need to do. And i'll do anything i can to help, anything(well, within reason). But if you need help with setting any of this up just e-mail me at watcher_of_the_waves@yahoo.com I'm really serious aout this contact me. Peace, Malandoris
...no leaders! that's where it all goes wrong. you need equal partnership from all involved - who care, wanna share and help bring peace, love, freedom, respect to our bleedin planet
your totally right, but we still need a form of open-minded leadership; aand someone to set us straight if things get out of hand. Peace, Malandoris
i think it is a good idea, but i think expanding an already rockin' fest to make it bigger and better would be easier than starting from scratch. You could help recruit people and advertise. add new ideas and events and really get everyone excited. make it the anual event nobody wants to miss, the new millinium woodstock. One happening towards the central us so it would be somewhat convenient no matter where everyone lives. advertisement is the key...... the bigger it gets every year, the more willing people will be to help next year.
