Family

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Hellvis, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. Hellvis

    Hellvis Senior Member

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    Thanks for this brother, i agree with you completely.
     
  2. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks Ms---I wonder how many people on here had a "regular "childhood?(if it hadn't for being "decent looking" and good at sports,I surly would have gone over the edge.)I'm betting not that many "normal" ones.
     
  3. Hellvis

    Hellvis Senior Member

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    I don't know man, i was typical in middles school played football still hold a interception record. Then in high school everyone grew bigger and i didn't so i didn't play and got into music and kinda found myself through playing music. I find that the outcast seem to be far more intellegent.
     
  4. scratcho

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    I agree Helvis.It makes for a better combination of "book" and street smarts and causes one to engage in more self contemplation than "regular folks.Also ,we can take shit better without falling apart.
     
  5. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Ive had a very normal childhood. I am sensitive and used to good things, but inside, very strong. I had great parents.
     
  6. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    That's great Cate.Almost every kid I ran with, came from a broken home.Birds of a feather,I guess.
     
  7. Hellvis

    Hellvis Senior Member

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    See i came from a broken home, but somehow after it got broke it got rebuilt stronger.
     
  8. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Even if parents are divorced, the child can have a normal childhood if the parents are secure adults. I feel like divorce is almost the norm.
     
  9. scratcho

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    Well,mine never did get re-built.Everyone scattered to the winds and to this day I don't communicate with any of'em Made me the loner I am today,maybe.I have the capacity to love though.
     
  10. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Because it is a human necessity, to love. Sweetie.
     
  11. Makaveli_Reborn

    Makaveli_Reborn No?

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    Some people have shitty upbringings and overcome it. Some people have an upbringing that resembles something out of a fairy tell, and grow up to be failure junkies. I'm sorry to say that there is no excuse to allow your upbringing to shape your adult life. Only those who don't stop and think to question things for themselves allow their upbringing to break them.
     
  12. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    agreed.
     
  13. Makaveli_Reborn

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    That statement kills me inside. Not from you specifically, but in general. Divorce is leading to a major decline in our societal sucess and every day more people get divorced because it's so common and easy now.

    I understand that there are circumstances that call for divorce but it never should've gotten to the point where people have come to expect it.

    Whatever woman marries me better be ready for the ride because I wont agree to a divorce at all.
     
  14. Cate8

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    It is sad and I wont ever divorce easy because i know there are ups and downs, continuously. Not one single member of my entire extended family has ever divorced or is in an unhappy relationship. They are all beautiful and successful and happy and we love each other. There must be a reason.
     
  15. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    You'll end up poisoned
     
  16. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    What was your upbringing like,Makaveli,if you don't mind me asking?
     
  17. Hellvis

    Hellvis Senior Member

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    Divorce has become an epadimic, i think alot of people have what i call grass is greenier on the other side syndrom. You knwo where they see that "hot" girl out somewhere and they think WOW how hot is she so much hotter than my plain hanging out in sweets and a t-shirt boring underwear wearing nagging girl at home. What they seem to forgot is most people have the same issues you might not have the same fights with the new girl but you are still gonna fight and have those up and downs. Some people are always looking for the next best thing.
     
  18. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    I agree with you hellvis. I also think people confuse that rush of infatuation for love. When the giddyness leaves they think they are no longer in love. Maybe they never were. I think people rush into marriage.
     
  19. Makaveli_Reborn

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    Parents split from what each claims was an abusive relationship. I watched my mom beat my dad bloody at times as he refused to defend himself. I listened to my mom's accusations of abuse towards my dad. I watched my mom go to "bowling leagues" and "arts courses" with guy friends.

    At 10 my parents split. My mom moved us 2000 miles away from my dad and we saw him on summers. Before the move he had weekend visits. He was allowed to pick us up at 9am Saturday morning. If he showed up at 8:50, my mom made us sit and wait til 9am before she'd let us go down. She'd often get mad and tell us she wouldn't permit us to see him if we didn't do as she said and keep her secrets.

    There were times my dad would bring us home and we'd sit there for 45 minutes until my mom showed up drunk as shit. There were times my dad would bring us home and my mom would never show.

    He was not my biological father, so I didn't have the option to live with him. He still treated me as his own.

    My mother beat me, relentlessly, until I was about 15. Frying pans to the back, shoes to the face, belts to the thighs and calves at times. She's since become a new person and is a recovering alcoholic.

    Money was always tight. We had nice furniture and tapestries, but we ate hotdogs, macaroni, and frozen pasta regularly. My mom tried hard for us though. Worked her poor body to the bone doing physical labor because it paid better than other jobs available to her.

    As a result, she worked long days, and sometimes I wouldn't see her for a week or so at a time. I babysat, fed, tutored, and mentored my two little brothers from 10 to 16. I wasn't permitted much of a social life either because of this and I was obviously the most ignored being the oldest. My baseball games were never attended because they conflicted with my brothers' games. Extra curricular activity was strictly prohibited for the most part because it was "inconvenient" to my mother.

    From 16 to 18 I was "kicked out" enough times to need two hands to count it. One time was over my placement of cups in the cabinet. This was by my step dad. My mother backed it.

    My mother has never saved a dime and here very shortly will most likely be relying on me to get by. My father has been a much more stable influence and has always done whatever it is he could to guide and teach us, but often what we needed was him within physical reach.

    I still managed to turn out reasonably sane and got into minimal trouble on my way to "growing up". I've tried and done drugs and been arrested twice. Never needed rehab or stole from family or anything. I've only been fired from one job in my life(also I have only quit one job, ever, without a future plan), I graduated highschool, and attended college until I lost desire for the degree I was shooting for. I kept my last job for 3 years and have currently cemented myself into a decent, even if roller-coaster-ish, career in sales.

    Anybody can make it.
     
  20. scratcho

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    Thanks,man.
     
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