I don't think that this issue is about one side being right or wrong, though, but one person seems to be intent on making this the case. Claiming that false rapes allegations occur quite frequently does not automatically mean that the person making this point believes that rapes don't occur and all women who claim that they have been raped are "liars".
'JANE ROE' COMES TO TERMS WITH PAST IN NEW BOOK 6/26/94 By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON -- Two decades after the landmark 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion, plaintiff Norma McCorvey has stopped dodging the past by writing an unvarnished account of her tumultuous, hard-knocks life and how being Jane Roe transformed it. ''I am a rough woman, born into pain and anger and raised mostly by myself,'' she writes in the book, ''I Am Roe: My Life, Roe v. Wade, and Freedom of Choice.'' The Louisiana native chronicles her difficult childhood and how she stumbled into the history books after finding herself, at age 21, divorced and pregnant for a third time. The 2 1/2-year project with freelance journalist Andy Meisler was cathartic, Ms. McCorvey said. ''It was very hard for me to bring all these memories back again,'' she said in an interview at the conclusion of her book tour last week. ''I had tried very hard not to go back to those dark days of my life.'' The book isn't a treatise on abortion or how the court ruling altered the political landscape. It isn't a legal primer either, touching only lightly on Texas attorneys Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, who pushed the case to the Supreme Court. Instead, it's the account of one life and how that life was forever changed when, in a Dallas restaurant in February 1970, Ms. McCorvey agreed to become the plaintiff in a lawsuit seeking to overturn Texas' anti-abortion statute. There appears to be little in her past that she fears to divulge. By page 2, she acknowledges being a lesbian and a formerly battered wife and she admits abusing drugs and alcohol. She details her years in reform school in Gainesville, Texas; a troubled relationship with her mother; a rape while a teen-ager; marriage at 16 and separation shortly thereafter while pregnant; a botched suicide attempt; and periods when she sold drugs for a living, tended bar in gay hangouts and worked as a carnival barker. It took a decade for her to acknowledge publicly that she was Jane Roe. In response, gunshots were fired into her home, eggs thrown at it and baby clothes scattered on her lawn. Through it all, Ms. McCorvey said she remained a virtual recluse. She hid from her memories, from the burden of being Jane Roe and from the lie that her third pregnancy -- the one that led to Roe v. Wade -- resulted from rape. It wasn't until a 1989 abortion-rights march in Washington that she began reconciling her separate identities. The once-naive woman who writes that she didn't even know that pregnancies could be terminated until her third, who stumbled through early interviews and public appearances, now talks with ease about being Jane Roe. She said she claimed a rape led to the Roe pregnancy because she thought that was the only way to get an abortion. In truth, it began with an affair with a professional gambler. Although the Roe case won women the right to an abortion, Ms. McCorvey had already given birth by the time it was resolved. She gave up the baby for adoption. She writes that she doesn't know two of her three daughters: the second child she bore after a fling with a hospital orderly; and the third child, the Roe baby. ''Of my many sorrows, this is without a doubt the worst,'' she writes. Ms. McCorvey said her book has a message. ''What I want people to understand ... after reading 'I Am Roe' is the simple fact that it only takes one person to make a difference; that it doesn't matter how far down in the gutter you get or how absolutely negative everything seems at the time,'' she said. ''There is always that light at the end of the tunnel.'' During her seven-city book tour, Ms. McCorvey was met by anti-abortion protesters at stops in Washington, Chicago and Dallas.
The only case you could find was one wack job (Norma McCorvey) from 1973? And the article is from 10 years ago itself. McCorvey is now a "born again" Christian" who speaks against abortion. She's nuts, always was. She changed personalities like most peoeple change clothing. So what does this prove? That 31 years ago, when abortion was totally illegal ONE womyn, who had serious mental problems, lied about a rape in order to try to terminate a pregnancy? This is silly. I'm done here.
Well, actually, I've posted other articles on false rape allegations, and there will certainly be more. I find it interesting how you denounce her as "nuts". Well, that may be the case, but she's still a woman and she still made a false rape allegation. The sad thing is, our society is ready to accept at face value the accusations of a "mentally ill" woman when it comes to rape, but condemns her victim almost without question.
Of course it happens, and those women are horrible for lying, only giving a bad name for women as I see it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it of course does. But this isn't restricted to just women, every group of people has some people in it that would lie to get away or help themselves financially or w.e. Men, women, all the "races", and religions.
feminist research and reports are skewed and over-dramatized as far as *good data* is concerned. most of their propoganda can't even be believed. to poo poo the idea that false rapes don't equal 41% is discriminatory against men, considering the research has been done and provided by a reputable university. why wouldn't the research be considered legitimate if it came from a father's rights group? women's rights groups certainly aren't going to do it. btw, warren farrell is not a pedophile nor does he condone pedophilia. you took his words out of context which is a typical feminist behavior when *she* hears something out of a man's mouth she doesn't like. warren farell has every right to advocate, research and write on the behalf of men who are becoming second class citizens in this country. any woman raising a son today should read this thread with an open mind and understand what dangers her son might face today with false rape accusations becoming part of the norm. if he's falsely accused, he will be guilty until proven innocent by societies standards.
it needs to be discussed over and over again, and women who falsely accuse should be afraid to do it. their penalities should be harsh. something i find interesting is when a woman claims *date rape* and says *well i said no and then he did it anyway*. HOW? how did he do it anyway? were you tied down, held down, beaten up? women need to be more responsible in the situations they put themselves in and getting themselves out of situations. too many times women give dual messages *no means yes* and *yes means no*. if you're an adult say no, and still stick around to get fucked and afterwards have regrets that IS NOT RAPE. you can't rape the willing. it's really easy to get away from a man who isn't a rapist, he'll let you leave. a REAL rapist, won't let you get away.
my mother was date raped by a boy twice her size. she was 15, he was 18, she was enthralled and impressed by him. to this day she'll never park in a parking garage and still doesn't like to be touched. she was forced to give that baby up for adoption, has never spoken the man's name and never reconciled with her family because they blamed her and didn't support her at all. DON'T EVER belittle the victims of date rape, it's disgusting.
Date rape really only implies that she was willing to go on a date and not necesarrily willing to have sex. Rape is rape. Dont make no difference if she dated him or not. Now if she's lying and was willing then changed her mind, she should be dealt with and harshly.
i won't, when it's REALLY date rape. i'm shocked that a 15 year old girl was allowed to even date back then. i've been date raped myself, drugged into blackness with non-alcoholics drinks that had something in them and then fucked, i have no memory of it except for the 5 minutes coming too naked in the doggie style position and soreness the next day, so i REALLY get pissed when women use it as an excuse for their regrets and they do it ALL the time. i can regurgitate womens stories of date rape until i'm blue in the face, it still doesn't change the fact that many women abuse this accusation which belittles it for EVERYONE.
how many women have been in the position of being on a date or in the presence of a man and he's trying to go further than kissing and she's saying *no* and he's persistent, trying to coax her into more than kissing and she goes along with it, only to have regrets the next day and maybe even FEEL raped. this is the situation i'm portraying here. i've also been in this situation and learned when i say *no*, my actions better say *no* also. like getting the heck out of there and removing myself from the situation pronto.
ah. that was still an incredibly insensitive and hurtful comment you made. to say that date rape isn't rape and the woman's fault is nasty to a degree i obviously can't make you fully understand. naivete, trusting the wrong person and being blamed (and often called a stupid slut) for the incident gives those foul rapists MORE freedom to do it again.
i mean, look at that last statement. i mean REALLY? wow. that's stunning that you would believe that for a second. we all pretty much agree that false rape allegations are disgusting and deserving of serious punishment. but don't underestimate the ability of people to cover up something INCREDIBLY unpleasant and let the woman deal with it by herself.
Speaking as someone who was in a abusive relationship I find women who say "I would say no and get out of the situation" to be incredibly stupid. My ex was over 6 foot and 300lbs, I was 4 foot 11 and 98 pounds. I said no, I fought, and I had no fucking chance. Escaping from rape isnt as easy as you make it sound. Drugged or not. Fucking stupid statement to say otherwise.
your mom's day and age is not today's day and age. the only girls who are that niave today are being homeschooled and sheltered from society. date rape is even a common theme for tv shows and prevention and awareness is talked about in jr high schools and high schools all over the country in the US. false allegations belittle real rape which gives foul rapists more freedom to do it again and clogs up the court system for serious cases. false allegations also ruin the lives of innocent men like the duke lacrosse alleged rapists who were themselves, victims of the very thing i'm speaking of not to mention kobe bryant, who didn't have his life ruined but i'm certain he see's his experience as life ruining.
tell that to my little sister. NO ONE thinks it'll happen to them, and if it does, all the more reason for everyone to call them a stupid slut with 10 abortions just so they can keep going out with the popular rich guys. just turn a blind eye and say "she shoulda known better, the stupid slut." fuck that mentality.