False Rape Allegations

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by iiaajmn, Oct 18, 2004.

  1. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    No one said people are never falsely accused. And certainly not I

    If you read my first post on the topic I do say:

    But then I went on to explaining how I thought that the paticular study was flawed. That study is, after all, the topic of the thread.



    And I hardly believe this to be true. The state cannot use cruel and unusual punishment...but rapists aren't confined to that law...
     
  2. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    I have to strongly disagree. Rape and sexual assault are horrible. It does things to people which influence some of their ability to relate to and trust others, and it is also physically harmful. Only one who has NO concept of what it is like to be sexually assaulted could make a naive comment like the above quote.
     
  3. Megara

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    i think what he means is that being stripped of your freedom is the worst thing that can happen to a free man..
     
  4. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    I agree, it is horrible, especially if you are innocent. But being sexually assaulted is, IMO, the WORST thing that can happen to a person. It is, however, like comparing apples and oranges.

    As a victim you ARE stripped of your freedom, with little or not hope of release.
     
  5. Bug_Man

    Bug_Man Banned

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    A cry of "rape" is definitely a womans most searing form of revenge, that's for sure! Sounds as if it is used a little too often. Seems to me that law should allow for harsher punishment for such false allegations. Maybe these vindictive women will think twice about it.
     
  6. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Even in the 96% to 98% of the time it is the truth? Sure, she should just shut up and take it like a good bitch, right?
     
  7. Bug_Man

    Bug_Man Banned

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    Wow! That sure is a harsh statement for you to make against women. Be gone with you and that attitude.
     
  8. Bug_Man

    Bug_Man Banned

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    This thread is about the false allegations, not the truthful one's.
     
  9. iiaajmn

    iiaajmn Banned

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    And I take it that you believe you "refuted" the study by Dr. Kanin. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I haven't heard something so funny in a long, long time. Claiming that the paper was written for the sake of "pedophiles" is NOT rufuting the validity of the study.
     
  10. Bug_Man

    Bug_Man Banned

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    iiaajmn, certain individuals choose not to ackowledge that there are two sides to the coin. Don't let such unfounded feedback bother you.
     
  11. iiaajmn

    iiaajmn Banned

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    Yeah, well, it's interesting to note that people you refer to "pedophiles" (ie. members of Father's Rights groups) are citing the same literature as you. Now why would you be doing such a thing?

    Incidently, the studies that you refer to only deal with false rape allegations by children in child custody cases. But we're talking in general here, and the statistics from your sources suggest that the older the female "victim" the more likely that the allegation is indeed false.

    Also, if you would care to read the Kanin article yourself, perhaps you'd realize that the author [Kanin] is not out to get women, that he discusses the variety of reasons that the woman might have for making the false allegations, and in no way downplays the suffering experienced by true rape victims. The author is merely trying to objectively understand the phenomena, as academics are wont to do. It's unfortnate that you don't possess even a fraction of the capacity to do so.
     
  12. Bug_Man

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    When it comes to MaggieSugar, your efforts in persuasion are futile, I'm afraid, iiaajmn.
     
  13. iiaajmn

    iiaajmn Banned

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    You see, this is yet another example of how it is easily assumed that you're lacking an education. He was simply stating that women who make false allegations should be penalized for doing so. Rape is a serious crime; being falsely accused of it can ruin a person's life, so it only stands to reason that the false accuser should be punished.
     
  14. iiaajmn

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    I know, but this issue needs to be discussed, and even if she won't listen, hopefully others will learn from it.
     
  15. dotadave

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    Wanna bet? History is rife with examples of the state using cruel and unsual punishment. Take Nazi concentration camps for example. In America, there is nothing from stopping the state from cruel and unusal punishment except for a piece of paper and the legitimacy of 9 judges. That same piece of paper that supposedly restricts the state from cruel and unusual punishment also supposedly prevents the government from forcing someone to proove their innocence, and it doesn't seem to be doing a good job of that.

    Much like someone put in prison simply over a mere accusation.

    Please do not troll maggie sugar. That was a low blow.
     
  16. dotadave

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    I'm aware of that and I thank you for acknowleding that but there are some that are using it as a justification to lock up people who may be innocent and I was responding more to them than you.
     
  17. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Thank you, Stilanas. I appreciate it. Please forgive my earlier anger reaction to one of your posts. I get a little testy on the subject (figure of speech.)

    As for the rest, I will put it to rest. There is nothing more to say without continualy repetition.
     
  18. Super_Grrl

    Super_Grrl Crazy love

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    Wow.. ok, I just checked out this thread... this is beyond ridiculous. I agree with one side, and not the other, but I'm not even going to GO THERE because I have no desire to be drawn into this roundabout argument that's going nowhere. Both sides are constantly presenting the same arguments, over and over and over... enough already. PS fellow posters, trolling isn't cool. Yah this is a "free speech" forum, but would it kill you to at least play nice? I'm out.
     
  19. iiaajmn

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    It happens to be the truth, though, so I'm not sure how you can call it a "low blow".
     
  20. Bug_Man

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    It was never intended to be a "low blow". Her posting history in this thread speaks for itself. Case closed.
     

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