False Rape Allegations

No, it hasn't been explained how the "number is flawed," rather you've simply stated why you think it's wrong, without having read the article, in which the researcher's methodology has been outlined. Until you've read the article and pointed out where the researcher has made mistakes, I'm affraid that I have no other recourse but the accept the fact that 41% of the rape allegations he studied were false.

 

Friday, October 1, 2004

False rape threat scares Y. player
By Dick Harmon
Deseret Morning News

PROVO — On the heels of the several rape allegations this year against collegiate athletes in Utah, one BYU player says he has received a phone message that he feels is threatening.
Rape is a serious offense. Accusations are not taken lightly, and while an accusation in January against several BYU players later proved unfounded, Provo police still are investigating an accusation leveled last month against several other BYU players.
False accusation of rape also should not be taken lightly, and Ibrahim Rashada, a freshman from Georgia, says a voice-mail message recorded on his cell phone is a threat.
Rashada, a defensive back on the Cougar football team, said that last week he received the message from a woman he met on a phone chat line. He let me listen to the voice mail:
"Look, (expletive) . . . you better stop talking (expletive) you (expletive) if you want to stay on that football team. Talk (expletive) to me again (expletive), I sure will get you kicked off that football team and say rape and what."
Rashada, a devout Muslim, said the message was "scary" and he felt threatened. He has taken the recording to BYU coaches and contacted an attorney.
Rashada first talked to the woman while he and friends were fooling around on a telephone dating service two weeks ago. Rashada provided a profile of himself but admits he made the mistake of leaving his cell phone number. "I was watching TV at the time and really wasn't into the conversation," Rashada said.
After other phone calls, Rashada agreed to arrange to meet the Salt Lake woman and her friends after BYU's game against USC in LaVell Edwards Stadium on Sept. 11. He arranged for the women to pick up tickets, Rashada said. After the game, he saw a group of women asking for him outside the locker room.
According to Rashada, he did not volunteer his identity because the woman who had described herself on the phone as petite did not match that description, she wore a nose earring and "I wasn't going to date somebody bigger than me," he said.
In a later telephone call, Rashada let it be known that he wasn't interested, because of deception in the description. Then he received the phone message he considered threatening on his cell phone.
This rape allegation is the fourth that has surfaced among BYU and Utah football players since January. In August a 17-year-old accused BYU freshmen of sexual assault. No charges have been filed in that case. Earlier this month a woman accused a University of Utah starting football player of rape. No charges were filed in that case following a police investigation.
We don't know for sure everything that happened in any of these situations. Police in Provo and in Salt Lake City decided that the incidents did not constitute rape in the BYU case in January and in the Ute case in September. The investigation continues into the August accusation. And police have not investigated Rashada's situation, but he wants to go on the offensive.
Rashada is perplexed, scared and filled with angst. He's learned that dating can be as complex as brain surgery — and it can get cloudy fast with something as simple as a phone.

 

Woman accused of false rape report
Friday, October 08, 2004
STRATFORD - Brianne Bellott, 27, of Williamsport, Pa. has been charged with falsely claiming she was abducted from a PATCO High Speed Line station and raped on Oct. 5.

Bellott is charged with making false reports to law enforcement and tampering with or fabricating evidence, according to Camden County Prosecutor Vincent P. Sarubbi, Stratford Police Chief Ronald Morello and Delaware River Port Authority/PATCO Police Chief Vincent Borrelli.


According to investigators, Bellott allegedly took the High Speed Line to Philadelphia on Tuesday morning with the intent to purchase and smoke crack cocaine. In Philadelphia, she allegedly met with a dealer she knows, got the crack and did smoke it, but got in a dispute with the dealer over money and the dealer hit her in the face. Bellott allegedly got more crack someplace else in Philadelphia and smoked it through the night and into the morning, authorities said.

Wednesday morning, she allegedly rode a High Speed Line train back to New Jersey and got off at the Lindenwold station, walked through the parking lot into a wooded area off Arlington Avenue in Stratford, put some personal items there, then went back to the road and sat on a curb, said authorities.

When asked by a motorist if she was all right, Bellott allegedly told the story about being abducted and sexually assaulted. The motorist called 911 and Stratford police responded.

She allegedly told police she'd been abducted in the parking lot, then took them to where her personal items were laid out; she also allegedly told them she'd been forced to ingest cocaine, said authorities.

Making false reports is a disorderly persons offense with a maximum of 180 days in jail. Tampering with or fabricating evidence is a fourth-degree crime with a maximum of 18 months in jail.

 

What? I have a BS and a Masters from one of the most repected private universities in the midwest. I also have an IBCLC, which is an other Master's. Tell the Jesuits that their Universities are "backwoods community colleges." (And anyway, there is nothing wrong with people who DO get education from community colleges, not everyone can afford or get into private Universities.) The reason I mentioned it, my intelligence, my reading skills, and my ability to interpret data were called into question. Nobody grads cuma sum laud from my college who can't read a study properly, or is unable to tell good reserach from bad.


And yes, I do think myself "really smart"

 

I could quote THOUSANDS of true rape reports, which would prove WHAT? No one is saying "false" reports don't happen, just that they are NOT 41%.

I read some of your data. As I said, I can tell good research from bad. "Father's Rights Groups" and pedophiles do not qualify as good data sources.

 

. Thoennes N, Tjaden PG: The extent, nature, and validity of sexual abuse allegations in custody/visitation disputes. Child Abuse & Neglect 14: 151-163, 1990.

2. Everson MD, Boat BW: False allegations of sexual abuse by children and adolescents. J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry 28: 230-235, 1989.

3. McCurdy K, Daro D: Current trends in child abuse reporting and fatalities: The results of the 1993 annual fifty state survey. Chicago: NCPCA, 1994.



Finally, the extensive study of 1,249 allegations by Everson and Boat found a false allegation rate of 1.6% for children under 3 years of age, 1.7% for children aged 3 to 6, 4.3% for children aged 6 to 12, and 8% for adolescents (for an age-averaged rate of 4.7%). (Everson and Boat, J. Am. Acad. Child Adolesc. Psychiatry 28, 230 (1989).)

The study of 142 cases by Faller gave a 3% false allegation rate. (K. C. Faller, Childhood Abuse: An Interdisciplinary Manual for Diagnosis, Case Management and Treatment (ColumbiaUniversity Press, New York, 1988).

Jones and McGraw found that false allegations by children represented 2% of the 439 allegations they studied (false allegations by adults gave an additional 6%). (David P. H. Jones and J. Melbourne McGraw, J. of Interpersonal Violence 2, 27 (1987).)

Contrary to myth, allegations of sexual abuse in custody proceedings are relatively rare. An American Bar Association and Association of Family and Conciliation Courts study concluded that of 9,000 custody-visitation disputes, that fewer than 2% involved allegations of sexual abuse.Moreover, they found that allegations arising in post-divorce cases were even more likely to be valid. (Association of Family and Conciliation Courts Research Unit, "Allegations of Sexual Abuse in Custody & Visitation Cases: An Empirical Study from 12 States," at 15-16 (March 1988).

Frequency of Divorce-Related Sex Abuse Allegations: Not True

Quoted from a report of a study by J. Pearson, Ph.D., Director of the Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit organization established in l991 to research and evaluate a variety of family law and child welfare issues, from article published FAMILY LAW JOURNAL, Summer l993, Vol 27, No 2 copyright American Bar Association Family Law Section.

Do YOU have a reading comprehension problem? Of only when the data comes from womyn?

 

According to RAINN statistics, only about 6% of rapists—roughly 1 out of 16—will ever be convicted and spend time in jail. According to FBI statistics, reporting in the January 11, 1993 edition of Newsweek by Kevin Krajik, at least 33% of men convicted for rape by 1993 were falsely accused.


http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Rape#Punishment


both of those statistics should scare the shit out of everyone.

 

Now this is an interesting study, one that I was reading about the other day. Apparently there have been plenty of cases where men were falsely identified as the attacker. They are starting to have to rely more heavly on DNA testing because victims arent always accurate when identifying the man in a lineup.

So a lesson to any women who are attacked, try to get as much hair, skin, whatever from your attacker so it can be used as DNA evidence, and the right person get's sent away for the crime.

It's pretty bad to send the wrong person to jail AND have the real attacker roaming the streets...

 

There is a HUGE difference between the wrong guy being convicted of a rape (meaning a rape REALLY occured, but the poor wrong dude is suffereing because of the offender) and a "False" allegation, meaning NO rape occured, and the "victim" is lying. These are two different things.

 

I went to your link, Megara, but the actual stats were not there, just a review of sorts of the article, which was not linked in the article. I'd like to see the stats themselves.

 

err, the link takes you right to what i copy/pasted

 

both end up with guys in jail for something they didnt do, so both are horrible. This of course was a big problem before DNA testing since it would usually come down to he said/she said testimony...hopefully that number has come down a LOT since 1993..

 

Oh, I'd say that people can graduate cuma sum laud and still be quite stupid. As for you, regardless of what you got and what kind of respect and "authority" that entitles you to, your conduct clearly shows that your intellectual development is substandard. Some sure signs of this, are:

1) Making unfounded and malicious comments and accusations about someone you disagree with; ie., someone proposes a theory that contradicts you narrow-minded ideology, and they're an "offender" or a "pedophile".

2) Posting information from unreliable sources and/or has no citation. As indicated in post #30, your "statistic" for 2% of rape claims being false allegations is derived from some feminist's book, and is apparently something she heard a judge say once. Ooo, that's, real reliable.

3) Inability to accept valid research data that contradicts one's ideological worldview. Most feminists fail miserably when it comes to this.

 

This isn't a forum to insult one another, or to question a member's credentials. You posted your point. It was refuted. If you don't like it, too bad. That's the way it goes in these places.

 

Sorry to disapoint you Maggie, but I did a little research on one of your sources (Everson and Boat) and apparently this article is cited by a number of men's groups (ie. the people you refer to as "pedophiles").

Also, what you fail to realize here is that all three of these sources deal with allegations by children. I think it's safe to say that the majority of false rape allegations are made by adults, or adults on behalf of children. I think children are less likely to fabricate such a thing (unless coerced by a malicious parent). Your own quotation from the Everson/Boat article seems to support this; the older the children, the more likely they are to make a false allegation; the trend suggests that for adults the figure would be higher, much higher in fact.

 

Geez, thanks for pointing that out. I hardly think that I was insulting anyone, rather making objective, factual statements. If certain people find this offensive, then that's they're fault.

 

I know, but I was looking for references.

jiimaan, the stats are there. You can ignore them if you like. It is futile for me to post the same things again and again. My refs were reputable.

 

This isn't insulting? Please point out the facts here.

I think that the general consensus would be that it is YOUR conduct that shows any substandard intellect. You run out of argument, so you turn to insults. How grown up of you.

If you want to post a study or article, fine. But don't get all worked up when someone disagrees and refutes your information. That's the nature of debate. If you can't handle it than don't get involved.

 

btw its summa cum laude ;p sorry, but i'm anal when it comes to latin things

 

but it DOES happen sometimes. The number could be anywhere from 1% of the time to 99% of the time, due process and the presumption of innocence untill proven guilty is still violated by laws that allow convictions simply on the victim's claim

Evidence matters. Innocent people can have their lives ruined and their freedoms stripted from them. State power does far worse things to people than any rapist can.