False Rape Allegations

how do you know there's an ENORMOUS NUMBER of women who never report it ... because gloria allred said so? that is NOT a fact, in FACT, it's feminist propaganda. and your accusation of me, being responsible for people who never report rape is feminist hysteria. talk about brainwashed and close minded.

59% valid ... i never said it didn't exist, just not the extent that it's protrayed today.

 

because in my life ALONE, i know FIVE. i don't know a lotta women, so that's a pretty shocking fucking number.

anything you disagree with is going to be considered feminist propaganda to you. you may as well throw in a hitler reference.

 

ummmm, well i'm only pissed at LIARS not real victims. you keep misconstruing my words maybe because you're emotionally attached to this topic.

i do have a daughter and if she's ever the victim of a crime then i will trust her judgement.

 

this is the very first i've ever heard of your daughter. favor the son, eh?

 

ever spent time in a battered womens shelter or rape crisis center?

 

i think the real question here is HAVE YOU? i suppose you say you have, but you're UTTER CONTEMPT for women who have suffered would require that i not believe you.

 

I love you to shnookums.

 

actually i've posted about her before. he would disagree that i favor him considering she's the baby and requires more attention than he does because of her age, maturity and she needs lots of assistance with school work right now because of her dyslexia.

 

Kc, close this thread, pleasseeee? I'll make you cookies! Sweetdeviant clearly isn't open to any other opinion other then her own.

 

yes i have. both.

i was married and beat up regularly (a few months) when i was 19 and ended up in a battered womens shelter. and i spent years volunteering in southern california for these organizations afterwards.

i have real compassion for women who have suffered and nothing for those looking for attention .... and some of the stories i heard made me wonder what some of those women were doing there ... the dogma of the rape crisis center, for example, said if she says *NO* it doesn't matter what she does afterwards, she said *No* and that should be enough to convict a man of rape EVEN IF she hung around afterwards to fool around some more. that's what they're teaching women.

some oprah dogma is .... if a woman is running around HIS house butt naked, standing on her head doing the splits he still shouldn't touch her if she says NO.

these dogmatic approaches MAKE women VICTIMS with no responsiblity for their own behavior and actions.

how about the 16 year old girl at the high school party on saturday night literally sitting in the middle of the table showing all the guys how she can wrap her mouth around a beer can and showing how she outdrink everyone while flashing her tits. if she gets screwed by one or all of the guys and doesn't remember, is that rape?

 

so an opposiing opinion warrants a thread closure.

nice open mindedness you've got here. (rolling eyes)

 

Thats rich coming from you doll. I'm done with this thread, your comments are hurtful and your attitude disgusting.

KC, I love you, good luck having a real discussion here.

 

hurtful to 41% of disgusting women who lie about rape. awwwwww poor babies.

never intended to be hurtful to women are truthful.

 

yes. that is still rape if she didn't want to actually fuck. i don't get why this is an issue for you. making a few bad decisions because you're kinda dumb doesn't mean you DESERVE to be a victim. seriously, you've got a major problem.

 

well, you are hurtful. everyone else here who agreed with harsh punishment for false allegations managed to do so without lashing out at victims of crime. you're incapable. and making up details of your life to suit your current purpose is going to get awfully confusing. why don't you get real for a moment?

so, basically, this whole thread is becoming nothing but a pissing contest. everyone agreed that false allegations should be handled with more severity. the sane people agree that women don't deserve to be raped just because they did something stupid. deviant now has a daughter with dislexia, a history of being beat up, but never molested (thank god for her mother teaching her). we'll try to keep all that straight.

 

i never lashed out at victims of crime. don't worry about remembering the details of my life ... i'm not confused about them and will answer questions when asked.

this thread is not a pissing contest. the op posted an opposing and unpopular pov that poked holes in popular propoganda statistics. when i first started looking into these things myself ... it hurt my feelings and bothered me also, so i can understand why you feel upset with my comments. as women are we interested in the truth or do we like to propogate myths and fantasies to suit our own interests? i think the truth is better for society as a whole.

of course no woman deserves to be raped and no man deserves to be falsely accused .... both are horrendous and life ruining situations.

imo, women have a responsiblity when they're operating in society to be as safe as possible because the real bad people out there ... are really bad and they don't advertise who they are ... they hide in the shadows and wait for an unsuspecting person to victimize, someone who might not have all their senses about them, like drunkeness, someone who is alone at the wrong time and place, someone not paying attention to their surroundings. while these women don't deserve to be raped, simple precautions can prevent some of this from happening in the first place. it's the first things they teach in a rape prevention class. a real rapist will always find someone to rape, but a wise woman is aware they are out there and cautious in her behavior. again, cautious behavior can not always prevent such acts, but rape prevention classes exist to help women prevent these situations anyway.

and the stupid girl who sits in the middle of a table wrapping her lips around a beer can (advertising the size of her mouth for felatio), flashing her tits and getting shitfaced drunk is advertising her sexuality to all the men surrounding her at the table.

 

it doesn't matter if she's advertising her sexuality. she still doesn't deserve to be raped. yeah, she's acting like an idiot, and having been the Slut Squad Babysitter and all around Cock Block Queen, i know how bad it can be. but that still doesn't mean anyone who harms them had a right to it and should given a pass for lack of personal control. it's a crime. a man goes flashing his cash and gets robbed and it's HIS FAULT? i don't think so. how's this any different?

 

hey, johnny, can you manage to say that without the "cunts,whores, bitches" nonsense? i've never banned anyone before, but you're a bit ridiculous. wanna try again?

and "baby?" lol.

 

Very well. After all, I either play by your rules, or don't get to play at all. And I suppose my harsh language is inappropriate in this sort of discussion. In fact, though it pains my ego a bit to say it, one of my own quotes is "Personal insults never contribute to the explorations of ideas." And I will admit that I would be found guilty of that very law given the tone of my last post.

To revamp my last post:

SweetDeviant, Baby, you're too smart to :EDIT: battle it out with :EDIT: many of the posters here. Surf around, look at their MySpace :EDIT: pages. They're just a bunch of hypocritical kids who get their opinions from TV. You wanna know the quickest way to get banned from a site like this? Disagree slightly with their liberal feminist ideals, and DARE to insinuate they might be wrong, regardless of how ignorant and poorly researched their statements are.

You know how much time I used to spend on here desperately trying to milk an actual conversation outta these guys? COUNTLESS user accounts. Hell, it didn't matter how polite I was regarding my opinions. The moderators here would let all these chicks curse me out like a sailor with a stubbed toe, and then ban me when when my opinions didn't match up with their own.

Listen SweetDeviant, these girls aren't here for discussion. They're here to validate each others :EDIT: B.S., plain and simple. And at 172 posts, I'm worried you're gonna get sucked in. Because they sure as hell aren't going to let a guy like me try to back you up on here.

Don't cast your pearls before swine.
-Jesus-

I want you to think about that last part. To expound upon it; "...neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

Basically, don't throw pearls at a pack of wild pigs, because it might get their attention, and they'll turn around and eat you alive. The pearls represent words wisdom, and the pigs represent those :EDIT: rampant fundamentalist liberal feminists. The very same who subscribe to the notion that "A clean house is the sign of a wasted life", as if the institute of traditional family was somehow unbecoming and offensive to women. The very same that believe that women are not just equal to men, but superior. The very same that state that an unborn baby is just a parasite, free to be killed. The very same to campaign for woman's rights above HUMAN rights.

My mother has been a home maker her whole life. And my wonderful family could never exist in it's current form if she hadn't stayed at home, kept house, and disciplined us boys.

2nd Timothy 4: 3-4: For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

And as far as "Baby" is concerned, I perhaps know SweetDeviant from another forum, and we perhaps have exchanged enough with each other for me to warrant a suggestive term of endearment, though I know she is happily married.

But from my encounters with her, she has earned my respect. Not only as a woman, but as a person, and a person of fellow faith. Not that I'm some saint or anything. *chuckles*

Now, MamaKcita, perhaps I misjudged you slightly, because you have just shown me mercy in allowing me to reform my post. While I direly disagree with MUCH of what you express on these forums, I must commend you for allowing me that privilege. However short lived it may turn out to be. *chuckles*


Now, personally to you, MamaKcita, I have been banned from these forums before. Yes yes, I understand that it IS technically a bannable offense to re-enter these forums after being banned. Hell, on the forums I run, I would do so. So I really can't blame you if you ban me now. I'd be a hypocrite if I did. However, the IP I am posting from right now is an original, meaning my "ban" must have worn off, depending on how your Admin institutes the privileges of these forums.

But I must say that in the past, I WAS banned from expressing contrasting view points. In fact, I actually did a very specific test of such. I read the forums rules astutely, and adhered to them the very best I possibly could. I didn't curse, swear, insult, or provoke. But I did find myself cursed out and shunned because my opinions were not in conjunction with the general consensus of the average poster in this "Womens Issues" section.

I understand and realize that this particular section is an area for women. And I understand that women may not want the opinions of men in their particular forum. However, I personally cannot fathom an exploration of ideas without a full contrast from both sexes, and both political leanings.

Again, I will thank you for giving me another chance to speak here, MamaKcita. But please understand that in the past, I have been EXACTLY as civil as I have just been with you here, and still been banned for my opinions.

So I hope you will at least partially sympathize with some of the crude terms I used out of anger during my last post. Although I cannot legitimately justify them out of morality, I can out of frustration and fury.

But as my Grandfather taught my Father, "Real men can express themselves without cursing."

As I hope I have done so here.

 

i've only been a mod for a few months. it's obvious i LOVE a good fight. i'm not gonna judge harshly someone else for doing the exacpt same thing i do. i really don't think you're going to change any opinions here, so if your temporary ban wore off, fine. there's nothing inherently wrong in annoying people with an opinion.

one thing you do need to understand is that not every thread can be derailed into the male version of the topic. it's why we created the men's issues forum in the first place. people get EXTREMELY heated on these topics. changing every topic isnt doing anyone any favors. create a new thread here, or better yet, the men's issues. either way. just no overt insults or threats. there's a lotta innocent peopel who show up here who don't deserve to be the target for flaming arrows.