falling into depression

The story of the other day did pop back into mind. So I can understand that.

Andrew and I don't have telepathic conversations but oftentimes we think something at the same time.

I think you have a little bit of crazy Who doesn't? However I cannot claim any idea of what you are speaking about because I have a hard time with ideas such of channeling and telepathy....perhaps because I have not experienced them or perhaps my ideas block them from occuring. I have no idea.

How long you and your 'wife' been together? Do you stay together just for the kids? Why not go be with your spirit guides in reality?

 

I haven't ingested any mind-altering substances in 33 years - unless you count coffee and vodka.

A psychiatrist told me once that the definition of "insanity" is pretty much based on consensus: Do other people agree with your version of reality? Well lots don't - but lots do, also.

Try to get a rabid Republican and a rabid Democrat to agree on what reality is...

 

I would have to agree that I must be somewhat crazy to have done some of the things I've done. My spirit guide calls it "courage"...I like to think of it like that.

I started hearing telepathic "voices" on a regular basis at the age of 46, as a result of deliberate meditation and listening for that purpose. When I was in my early 30s, I would have been extremely skeptical if I had heard any claims like the ones I'm making now.

This is my second marriage. We've been married for 16 years. We can't afford a divorce and separate residences - not even close. The universe is forcing us to stay together and deal with our relationship, such as it is.

And that's what the spirit guides want, marie. It would be mistake to view them as "normal" human beings who do things for "normal" human reasons - their actions and motivations are complex and inscrutable, and are designed to bring about certain experiences in our lives to promote certain directions of spiritual growth.

 

So what did the psychiatrist think of it all?

This is just so damn intriguing to me. I am open to everyone's stories... i just haven't found channeling and telepathy to work for me....or least I don't know hwo to tap into it, is what I was saying.

 

Can I ask how you guys aredealing with it if there are these spirit guides putting more distance there then intimacy? Can't you use the energy from it, to go give your wife some super hot lovin?

 

It occurs to me that your wording is a little ambiguous - your statements could be interpreted as saying that I started out insane and am finding my way toward normalcy. It all depends on which assumptions you start with.

Interpreting life events is very much the same. Luckily some events are not so ambiguous.

 

He was an interesting guy. When I showed up in his office the first time and told him the issue, he gave me a long dissertation on ESP, and rattled off from memory the different classifications of "extra-sensory" experience. He said he wasn't convinced I was delusional, but he wanted to write that down as a working diagnosis so that he would be able to try a couple types of medication on me, to see if they made any difference in my worldview and perceptions. He tried two medications on me, and neither made any difference.

My wife also got me to go with her to see her own counselor a couple times. Her counselor grilled me mercilessly about my beliefs and perceptions for some time. Finally she said to my wife, "I don't think he's delusional." She did think I had an issue with obsessiveness - but then, so did Mozart and Thomas Edison... LOL

 

We get along okay. There were times that it was very bad, but at this point we generally get along well, aside from the missing intimacy.

But if I tried to get intimate with her again, I know she would return to her insecure, whiny and controlling ways, using sex to try to manipulate and control me, and I don't want any more of that - I'm done with it.

 

I bet that burned her up to have two different people tell her that you were actually ok.

Seems she has some real control drama going on from this post and the other one you just put up. do you think that is a human quality or do you think it affects women more than men? Because that is one of the issues I am working on right now. I know that half the time I stress out, its not about the situation as much as my control drama or expectations.

Insecurities suck

 

Experiencing "something odd...within your own head" isn't necessarily insane or even borderline - it could mean that you're seeing an aspect of reality that you've overlooked before, couldn't it? The way you interpret your experiences depends on your worldview and your definitions, doesn't it? We need to be careful not to let other people's definitions - or what we THINK are other people's definitions - get in the way of opening ourselves to our experiences.

But yes, a sense of humor is invaluable - and frequent reality checks are, too.

 

Yeah, they do. But it might help to keep in mind something a Zen master once said: "Be thankful for the weeds you find in your mind, because eventually they will enrich your practice."

I don't think insecurity and control issues are more prevalent in either gender. Think of all the relationships you hear about where the husband abuses his wife or girlfriend - that's insecurity and control. I do think men and women tend to have different ways of manifesting their insecurities. Women tend to be more passive-aggressive, men tend to be more aggressive and acting-out. But this isn't a hard-and-fast rule, either.

I've got insecurities aplenty, myself - and I tend to be more passive-aggressive, instead of aggressive. The insecurities are why my spirit guides are working on me - and I've gone through some definite changes as a result. I tend to be a lot more direct, and there are some things I just won't stand for in a relationship that I used to put up with - this is a result of improved self-esteem.

And you're on a spiritual journey too, of course.

 

Oh I am all about this spiritual journey. I have learned SOOOOOOOOOO much.

That's very true. However, I am more aggressive. Even when I read Mars and Venus stuff.....I am from Mars and my male partner is from Venus. Tis funny.

The weeds give me something to do

 

That's for sure - they sure make the journey more interesting, don't they?