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  1. Wetbikerider

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    Were there any gay Nazis?
    By Paula Martinac
    Rudolf Hess nicknamed "Fraulein Hess" (Miss Hess) by contemporaries

    Today, the regime of Adolf Hitler is remembered not only for its slaughter of millions of Jews, but for its mass imprisonment of homosexuals under a German criminal statute called Paragraph 175. But in the early days of Nazi rule, there were actually a number of high-level party members who were gay.

    Paragraph 175, which became the law of the land in 1871, stipulated that "a male who indulges in criminally indecent activity with another male … will be punished with imprisonment." However, convictions under this law were infrequent, since it was difficult to prove what two men had done in private.

    As Adolf Hitler began his ascent to power in the early 1930s, he at first endorsed a laissez-faire attitude toward homosexuality, especially among his close associates - thus helping to fuel rumors that he himself was gay. Sly insinuations about Hitler's sexuality came from his enemies in Germany and from members of the foreign press. American journalist Dorothy Thompson, for example, after interviewing Hitler in 1931, wrote about his "soft, almost feminine charm. I bet he crooks his little finger when he drinks a cup of tea."

    Recently, German historian Lothar Machtan posited the theory that the fuhrer was indeed, in his early years, actively homosexual. Among Machtan's "evidence" were Hitler's many close, intimate-seeming associations with men who preferred male companionship.

    One of Hitler's most loyal deputies, for example, was Rudolf Hess, who had been imprisoned with Hitler in 1923, following the Nazis' unsuccessful attempt to overthrow the government - the famous Beer Hall Putsch. After their release from prison in 1924, the two enjoyed a close personal relationship that Hess called a "most beautiful human experience," lasting until Hitler's suicide in 1945.

    Hess' contemporaries had revealing nicknames for the sensitive, effeminate man, like "Fraulein Hess," "Fraulein Paula," and "Black Emma." Although Hess eventually married - at Hitler's suggestion - his wife later complained that her life with him was much like that of a "convent schoolgirl."

    Also prominent among Hitler's intimates was Ernst Rohm, commander of the S.A. - the Nazi storm troopers. Rohm, a tough, brawny man who had been an army officer during World War I, became part of Hitler's inner circle in 1919, when the future fuhrer began venturing into politics. Although Rohm left the S.A. for a few years over differences with Hitler - Rohm wanted the storm troopers to be independent of the party - in 1931 he was invited back by Hitler and once again firmly entrenched in power.

    Unlike others in the Nazi Party, Rohm was openly homosexual, admitting to associates that he was "far from unhappy" about his sexual orientation. He frequented gay bars, belonged to a homosexual organization called the League for Human Rights, and publicly advocated the repeal of Paragraph 175. An anonymous 1932 article called "National Socialism and Inversion" has been credited to Rohm's influence (or even authorship); the article stated that if Nazi Party members performed their official duties well, they were entitled to private lives of "creative eroticism" and "loving homosexual relationship."

    Rohm established a kind of gay network within the S.A., assigning prominent posts to gay friends and lovers. Among Rohm's "sweethearts" was Edmund Heines, whom Rohm appointed first as his deputy and later as leader of the Munich branch of the S.A. Another of Rohm's favorites was Karl Ernst, who was nicknamed "Frau Rohrbein" for his intimate friendship with Paul Rohrbein, Berlin's S.A. commander. After meeting Rohm, Ernst had a meteoric rise from a leadership position in the S.A. to a seat in the Reichstag, Germany's legislative body.

    Rohm and his close-knit circle - dubbed in a Munich paper the "Brotherhood of Poofs" - had powerful, homophobic enemies who convinced Hitler that Rohm was a threat. These included Joseph Goebbels, head of Nazi propaganda, and Paul Schultz, captain of the Berlin S.A., who warned Hitler of the danger in "the employment of morally objectionable persons in positions of authority." Although Hitler's decision to destroy Rohm and his network was framed as a safeguard against a possible S.A. putsch, it may have also been designed to put to rest the rumors about Hitler's sexuality.

    On June 30, 1934 - called the Night of Long Knives - Hitler, Goebbels, and a small group of Gestapo traveled in the middle of the night to a resort where Rohm and his lieutenants were enjoying a furlough, sleeping peacefully in a hotel, some with their male companions at their side. Edmund Heines was dragged from his bed and shot. In recognition of his long friendship with Hitler, the half-dressed Rohm was given a pistol and ordered to kill himself, but he refused and was executed.
     
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    The Spartans Are Fags

    By Ryan Gilchrist
    Ryan Gilchrist

    The Muncie Spartans are such total fucking fags, dude. That whole entire school is gay, but the guys on the football team are the biggest homos of all. The Westbridge High Panthers beat the Spartans four out of the last five games, and the one we lost? That was when our quarterback, Kent, had the flu.

    Fucking Spartans, man. I bet they do each other right in the locker room, 'cause they can't even wait until they get back on the bus.

    Look at their queer uniforms, man. They love prancing around in that gay-ass green-and-yellow shit. And as soon as they get announced, they're on the field prancing like fucking fairies or something. They'd probably be happier running around naked, though, and looking at each other's dicks. Ripping through their gay "Go Spartans!" banner; like anyone would think that's cool, except for the fudge-packers who go to Muncie.

    And they got no fuckin' defense, man. Last year, during the big homecoming game, we lit those flamers up for 48 points. Their offense sucks, too. They can't throw a pass, 'cause of their limp wrists. Or probably their wrists are so sore from jacking each other off all the time.

    I tell you what, dude: On Saturday, me, Kent, and Kent's brother Steve are gonna drive out to Muncie High and totally steal their rock. At first we thought instead of stealing it, we'd just paint "Spartans Are Fags" on it, but you know they'd just paint right over it, like the fags they are, with some gay pink flowers or shit. So we're gonna swipe the fucker. Then, when the Spartans all come to school on Monday, they're gonna see the rock is gone, and they'll all be like, "Look at what homo pussies we are! We can't even hang on to our rock!"
     
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    Counterpoint
    The Spartans Did Indeed Engage In Homosexual Activity

    By Professor H. Lowell Lindemann
    Princeton University
    Professor H. Lowell Lindemann <BR> Princeton University

    There is no question that the Spartans were involved in homosexual activity. All of the leading texts on the matter make mention of it. Spartan men would often take a young boy under their wing in a close-knit, mentor-type relationship which included sexual relations. Though frowned upon within the strictures of most contemporary social norms, man-boy "eros" was a deeply rooted aspect of traditional Spartan society. Some even theorize that it bolstered their military strength by creating armies which were psychologically more close-knit.

    But despite all of this, Mr. Gilchrist's assertion that the uniform of a Spartan soldier reflects a homosexual influence is something of a stretch, in my opinion. The interlocking bronze strips which protected a hoplite soldier from waist to knees admittedly resembled a skirt, but there is, to the best of my knowledge, no connection between homosexuality and the modes of dress common to Spartan society.

    As for competing naked, the Spartans are believed to be the ones who introduced nudity to the ancient Olympic games in Greece, so there does exist evidence supporting Mr. Gilchrist's theory on this matter.

    However, I must vigorously object to my esteemed colleague's criticism of the Spartans' defense. When one studies the Spartans' courageous stand against the Persians at Thermopylae in 480 B.C., one cannot realistically impugn their defensive prowess. Knowing that the Persian assault was all but certain to end in their deaths, the outmanned Spartans took up arms and ferociously fought until their entire army lay dead, inflicting on the Persians casualties far greater than any military expert would have realistically projected.

    In short, though Mr. Gilchrist's basic thesis is grounded in fact, it is nevertheless exaggerated. Yes, the Spartans engaged in homosexuality, but the repetitive, explicit details of various homosexual relations to which Mr. Gilchrist returns again and again, distorting and overstating these homosexual aspects of Spartan society well beyond their actual sociohistoric importance (i.e. their impact on Spartan combat strategy), seem to indicate that he has some sort of hidden agenda at work. Perhaps Mr. Gilchrist needs to examine his personal motivations more closely before he is ready to offer a balanced assessment of Spartan sexual mores and conduct.
     
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    However, I must vigorously object to my esteemed colleague's criticism of the Spartans' defense. When one studies the Spartans' courageous stand against the Persians at Thermopylae in 480 B.C., one cannot realistically impugn their defensive prowess. Knowing that the Persian assault was all but certain to end in their deaths, the outmanned Spartans took up arms and ferociously fought until their entire army lay dead, inflicting on the Persians casualties far greater than any military expert would have realistically projected.
     
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    so go a ahead and beat up on every little skiny queer you can find .
     
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    it's a shame wetbikerider was banned. i like the cut of his jib.
     

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