Facebook to Share User Phone Numbers and Home Addresses

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  1. Voice of Truth

    Voice of Truth Member

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    As a retired lawyer I will tell you that they do NOT have the most basic information on you. The only thing a Police officer can access without permission from a judge is information allowed to them by the Moter Vehicle act. And that is only to verify that you are the person named on the license. Furthermore, they need reason to check that information which entails that you must be pulled over for a traffic violation.
    The cops, FBI, etc
    Can not ask what school you went to.
    Talk to your boss.
    Ask the social security agency for your tax records or legal status.
    Go to immigration and ask if you have a green card or not.
    Can't call the phone company to find an unlisted number
    etc... etc.. etc...
    In fact,
    Law enforcement does NOT know a damn thing about you. Nor can they go to any of these places and ask questions about you. That violates your constitutional rights and several high profil cases have demonstrated that law enforcement attempting to find information without judicial permission can be considered a violation of the fourth amendment right under certain circumstances. ( Because technically Law enforcement can't even search your garbage without permission. )

    Which bring us to Facebook,
    You publish it and you tell the entire world your personal information. Then law enforcement doesn't need judicial permission to use this information. And that's the game behind Facebook. Law Enforcement HATES rights. (Trust me I've seen this attitude first hand coming from many of them. )

    As a retired lawyer I advise everyone to stay off Facebook. In fact, I advise people to not befriend (in real life not just online) anyone that has a Facebook account. Because law enforcement is very good at getting information by proxy.
     
  2. indiemusicheaven

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    I am not surprised with this news, as facebook where share you some information publicly
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Thanks for explaining the reason why Facebook exists in its current form, to extract personal info for LEOs. Of course it has social purposes too, but that's just to get people hooked on it so they reveal everything about themselves.

    I've got to hand it to the CIA and NSA. They sure know how to manipulate people!
     
  4. Voice of Truth

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    Well this is how the game is played. The average person knows nothing about their rights or what the limits of law enforcement and goverment are. Even with the patriot act and various other legisltation now in place. A well informed person or lawyer could feed them their backside in the legal system.

    They want the majority of people to believe that they are "all knowing." Or that they can "find out anything" about anyone. The simple truth is that they can't and they need damn good reason to go looking.

    Read the following everyone and understand it clearly.

    TERMS OF SERVICE = RULES YOU MUST FOLLOW.

    It does not mean that Facebook has to follow them. They can give your personal information to whoever they choose and whenever they choose and they don't have to inform you before they do it. A TOS is not a legal contract of any sort in a court of law. A TOS from an end-user point of view is as worthless as the paper it's written on. (Considering it's not written on paper...)

    IN fact from what I've discussed with collegues that have website owners as clients. The TOS is more often than not, modified after the website has already been engaging in said activity for quite some time. They modifiy the TOS only as a last thought to avoid controversy. But there is nothing legally that obligates them to do so.

    The basic legal consensus in this nation is that "EVERYTHING" in your life is considered private and confidential until you tell someone or publish the information about yourself. So publish it and it stops being private and confidential and can be sold to law enforcement, credit card companies, etc.
     
  5. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    Thank you for your honesty.....

    Just about everyone in my family has one,i cant believe it... I am the only smart one..
     
  6. Ellen22

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    Well basic info I was talking about addresses...and as an English person you bring a lawyer has no bearing on me...I still dont see how this is supposed to scare me? I don't talk about private things on FB, dont document any important information, everything is general and nothing is secretive. There is no info placed onto FB about ME that I wouldn't want anyone else to know. So this general basic info I'm really not bothered about...so I went to this bar on saturday and I'm having a day trip with a friend the next day? so what...this isn't like having ID cards with our genetics printed inside - that I was opposed to and very worried about the consequences and meanings of...but my social life on facebook and a few drunk images of me in a bar? nah....I think everyone needs to chill...:party:
     
  7. Voice of Truth

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    All right let's follow the example you posted.

    You post on Facebook that you were in a bar last Saturday night at 11pm.
    5 minutes after you left the bar, another man walks in, has an argument with someone you had been talking with. A fight occurs outside the bar and that same person you had been talking with is killed.

    Congratulations, due to your facebook post you just went from being a person of interest to a suspect.

    Now if there was at least one person in that bar that wasn't drinking and can say you left before the fight. No problem.

    But if the only people that remember you leaving before the fight had even so much as consumed 1 drink or they had been arrested and served time in jail, etc. Their word alone without collaboration will result in you hoping that a crime scene investigation can reveal enough to keep you from having to pay a very expensive lawyer's bill.

    How often does this sort of thing happen?
    All the time. In the United States you have better chances of this sort of thing happening to you than winning a state lottery. In some areas, you have better odds of this happening to you then being hit by a drunk driver.

    I tell people all the time to SHUT UP!
    When the police come to talk to you. Even if it's a matter that doesn't concern you or your as innocent as baby Jesus. SHUT UP! Do NOT ever talk to the police. Because it's one thing when someone else say's somthing about you. But it's completely different when it comes out your own mouth. And in today's day and age, publishing your information on Facebook is almost as good as if it came from your own mouth.

    When a crime has been commited, a Facebook update placing you at approximately the same time as the scene of the crime; Is enough to get judicial permission to demand that your ISP release your IP information and give note of any other systems that might have logged your time online. They will track you back through every router, gateway, etc. and print off each of your keystrokes as evidence against you. ( And law enforcement is getting better at doing this sort of thing as I'm typing. )

    So fine and dandy that you're innocent and you're not going to be tried for a crime you didn't commit. But, you still might have to cough up 3K to 5K for a lawyer. But lord help you if the police do a half-assed job of the investigation or your stuck accepting a public defender.
     
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    a u new?. [​IMG]
     
  9. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Opiate of the masses?
    Anyone?
     
  10. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Religion...
     
  11. dutchblood87

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    dont' list your phone number and addy....duh!!! you think those crooks had honest intentions....and if you're using your bugged iphone, droid, xxxx smartphone, you're shit's public anyway....

    common sense, sheeple
     
  12. Rusty Spoon

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    I had a profile for a while, mainly for my (now ex) girlfriend. I deactivated at the first signs of the release of private info. They can still probably dig that stuff up, but at least I am not feeding it to them anymore.
     
  13. farmout

    farmout All who wander arent lost Lifetime Supporter

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    I just read this morning the facebook is now going to do face scans on all their members pictures..... Now thats skeery shit!.....:-/
     
  14. Voice of Truth

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    Because they now have the technology to get biometric information from any facial photo. In short, if they can see your "eyes" they can get primary data. They can get seconday if they can see your ears.

    In the state of Georgia,
    This has already been used in a criminal case . It's the DNA version of photos.
     
  15. skip

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    You should visit picasa.com (I think that's it). They already implement that. If someone has been identified in one photo you post, they'll find that same person in other photos and identify him/her.

    Yes it's damn scary! I'm sure this is to help the CIA which owns Facebook.
     
  16. farmout

    farmout All who wander arent lost Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks Skip, I will look into picasa.com and check it out.... I have several friends that are on facebook, tryin to open their eyes man!.....
     
  17. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    Yes i was just gonna post this!

    I truly feel bad for everyone on there (EVEN THE OENS WHO DONT CARE)


    Facebook changes privacy settings for millions of users - facial recognition is enabled


    http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/07/facebook-privacy-settings-facial-recognition-enabled

    The idiots try to justify why its ok:

    https://blog.************/blog.php?post=467145887130

    Sophos Open letter to these morons: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/04/18/facebook-open-letter

    Just another reason to avoid this piece of crap spying site!!
     

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