Face Coverings .Do we really need these now?

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Mysteron, Jun 9, 2021.

  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior Village Idiot

    Let me introduce you to Fox News.
     
  2. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    That really made me laugh how you posted that :)
     
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  3. Bllide

    Bllide Members

    Firstly, please dont treat me like an idiot. I will treat everyone I talk to on here with respect and would like the same.

    I said I am not 'convinced' about the need to wear one but went on to say I think they are a good thing anyway so I would never condone not wearing one and in fact, I wear one where ever I need too.

    You copy in to your post an article for why we should wear them. That does not make it fact. I listed to the news and governmey ministers all the time as well as read articles on line. For every person that says we should lockdowm, there is one saying we should not, for every person saying we locked down too late, there is one saying it was too early. Masks, I admit are a bit more certain but still, there are plenty of experts explaining why masks dont work. Things like, the crappy ones you buy on line dont work unless they are washed every day, or some dont hold back the droplets that we exhail, or that wearing them makes us fiddle with them more and hence, tranfer possible contaminets from hand to face. Also, that wearing a mask gives a false sense of sercurity and people get closer, feel safer, because of the mask.

    So, I am not 'convinced' about them but if I was a betting man, I would suggest they are worth it.

    I am not stupid!
     
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  4. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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  5. Bllide

    Bllide Members

    Thats true. Complacency could be the biggest issue as we move forwards and towards the winter!
     
  6. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior Village Idiot

    "Experts" of the same level of expertise as the WHO, NHS, CDC, JAMA, or the Lancet?
    Not all opinions are created equal.
     
  7. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    Yes I agree
     
  8. Toecutter

    Toecutter Supporters HipForums Supporter

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  9. SaraSara

    SaraSara Members

    That article is so biased I couldn’t get past the first paragraph. We know masks were effective. You can wash them or wear single use ones. Wearing a mask denoted care about people beyond yourself. The mandates were not an infringement on liberties or rights nor were they a test to see how we responded to rights being taken away. If you’ve been vaccinated then don’t wear a mask. If you haven’t then you can decide if you care about anyone beyond yourself or not
     
  10. Toecutter

    Toecutter Supporters HipForums Supporter

    Read the article and see what was found, take from it what you like
     
  11. SaraSara

    SaraSara Members

    Town hall, by it’s own admission is biased. I can’t take anything from a willingly biased source seriously. Besides, what they found is 100% irrelevant. We have a literal mountain of data that supports masks. I do not need “conservative news” (their words) for information.
     
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  12. Toecutter

    Toecutter Supporters HipForums Supporter


    Some people feel the personal choices of others are selfish and need to be regulated, it’s a two way street.
     
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  13. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    I think as most people in particular the vulnerable have now been offered the vaccine ,I think its time to slacken restrictions ,certainly the case in the UK . If they decided not to take a vaccine then that is fine also but they musn't expect others to manage their risk for them by wearing face coverings unsocial distancing and the like . The choice is theirs so should be the risk .
     
  14. Toecutter

    Toecutter Supporters HipForums Supporter

    Agreed,
     
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  15. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    But how do you identify those who have had their vaccines from those who willfully do not do so, and tend also not to wear face masks either. For your own protection isn't it wiser to continue to wear face masks until such time that the NHS says its no longer necessary ???
     
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  16. Toecutter

    Toecutter Supporters HipForums Supporter

    If one has taken the vaccine, what is the concern with those that may not have taken it ?
     
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  17. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    No I have to disagree

    i havnt endured the horrible side effects of having a vaccine x2 ,to continue with reduced liberties . As I have mentioned all the vulnerable have been offered the vaccine so now is the time for freedom . Those who have has the 2 jabs are as immune as they are likely to ever be . Like flu which kill around 15000 people per year it is something we will have to get used to . We dont make any restriction whilst flu is about and the same should be for Covid .

    I have enclosed the link below for the official Government endorsed face Covering Exemption pass



    https://assets.publishing.service.g...xemption_from_face_covering_card_to_print.pdf
     
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  18. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter


    Then how do you account for the fact that a small proportion of those who have had two vaccines, nevertheless contracted and subsequently died from Covid - Hmmm ???
     
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  19. Captain Scarlet

    Captain Scarlet Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    There is always going to be that risk

    Whats the option keep everything locked down for ever ?

    People die when they have had the flu vaccine as well but we dont keep everything locked down for that do we Hmmmmm?

    I am confident of going into a packed Saturday night Bar and conversing with people .

    If your not confident of going out then fine stay at home but dont expect everyone else to do so as well.
     
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  20. Toecutter

    Toecutter Supporters HipForums Supporter

    If one can still catch C-19 after being vaccinated would it be logical that one can still spread it, vaccinated or not ?

    People get the flu each year it’s just part of life , people get the flu shot each year and still catch the flu, die from the flu…

    C-19 is going to be with us like the flu, the common cold, etc.
     
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